http://bugofjustice.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] bugofjustice.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2006-02-02 07:01 am

Advanced Criminal Justice, Class 8: Quiz 1, Period 1, 02.02.06

[OOC: Quiz! For those not in the know, Tick's quizzes deal in general knowledge, hypothetical situations, and metaphor. Big shock, isn't it? Have fun. Please get them done by Saturday, but I'll accept any turned in before next Tuesday. All good? Good. Class Info Post.]

The Tick was standing by his desk when the class walked in. Lockheed was back in his usual spot, holding a cup of soup and slurping loudly at random moments. He of course kept this up until the last person handed in their quiz.

"Welcome, class! Congratulations on surviving after Tuesday's class. Today you have your first quiz for Justice this semester! Hopefully Karma is smiling at us in earnest and you'll all do just fine on the quiz and return safely to class next Tuesday. Good luck!"

Tick then handed out the quizzes.

1. Bugs Bunny: What is his deal, in terms of Justice?

2. Imagine two puppies quarrelling. Would your usual methods of negotiation/force to stop the fight still be applied? How would things change?

3. Explain the difference between Vengence and Justice with a metaphor involving the common farm animal of your choice.

EC. Please write a brief descriptive paragraph using a comparison between Justice, squirrels and the color blue.

Re: Quizzery [02.02.06]

[identity profile] psycho-barbie.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
1. He's either an avatar of a trickster god, operating on his own, vaguely karmic idea of justice, or pawn of same.

2. Puppies quarrel to learn valuable survival and pack communication skills, it would be detrimental to their future survival to separate them unless one was in immediate danger of harm, in which case it's a simple enough thing to separate them, since they are only puppies.

3. Always choose the tried and true mare Justice, rather than the untested colt Vengeance to hitch your plow to, and the Furrows of Society's fields will always remain straight and deep.

EC. Trying to run Society without Justice is rather like painting a squirrel blue. It may seem like a good idea at the time, and the result may seem pretty for a while, but in the long run Society and the squirrel are both worse off.

Re: Quizzery [02.02.06]

[identity profile] oatmanspatient.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Bugs Bunny is clearly insane. One minute he's the enforcer of the law, the next he's breaking all the laws of man and, in some cases, science. He is anarchy incarnate.

2. Well... I wouldn't shoot them. I also probably try to reason with them unless they were capable of human speech.

I can't believe I just wrote that.

Most likely I would distract them with a squeaky toy or some kind of rawhide chew. If they continue to be bad, then they go in the puppy crate.

3. When thinking of Justice and Vengeance, please consider the lowly pig. If everything in pig pen of society works properly, the pig is content with its world and seeks no retribution. However if the pig is angered it can lead to charging and trampling. Yeah. I got nothing

Re: Quizzery [02.02.06]

[identity profile] notstakedyet.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
1. I think Bugs doesn't have a deal with Justice, Justice has a deal with him. He's just trying to live his life and be the best human-like rabbit he can be, and circumstances keep getting in the way that mean he has to be crafty and clever to survive. And people keep putting huge meaning onto it when really he's just doing his thing and it's not part of destiny or fate or anything.

2. Things would change in that I'd be more likely to use a squirt bottle to get them to stop. Shaking a newspaper and saying "No!" in a loud and firm voice would also be more common. This differs from the normal methods in that my normal methods do not involve newspapers.

3. Justice is like a cow that stands solidly out in a field knowing that one day the milk of goodness and peace will come, whereas Vengence is the bull that gores you right in the back for one stupid mistake that any vampire body could have made and, okay, you get why you get gored in the back for doing what amounts to prodding the bull in a very personal area that the bull is fond of using, as for example, a taser, but why do all of your friends and loved ones have to suffer too? Especially since they were more into milk in the first place. As far as you know.

EC: Justice is like the blue sky that squirrels look up to so that they may be inspired to run free in nature and do squirrelly things involving fluffy tails and that cheet-cheet-cheet noise they make, and not take up arms against the birds of fury that steal their food and, if the birds are really confused, also make off with their women. Or men, if that's how they swing. I don't know. I never asked a squirrel.

Re: Quizzery [02.02.06]

[identity profile] carter-i-am.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Bugs Bunny is a vigilante. He is clearly trying to enforce what he believes are society's morals and laws, but does so in a haphazard and dangerous fashion without consideration for innocent bystanders or the laws of physics.

2. No, they wouldn't apply, because the puppies are (presumably) not capable of reason or higher thought after all, it's not as if they're cats . In that case, I would find something to distract them, or pull them apart if I knew they weren't going to bite me. I also might be willing to let them fight it out, because fights for dominance are natural in the puppy world.

3. Vengeance is a wolf that attacks the sheep of Justice, eating away until the flock no longer exists.

EC: Blue is one of the three primary colors from which all other colors are made (except in light, which uses magenta, cyan, and amber through additive color synthesis). Squirrels, on the other hand, very seldom make anything other than little squirrels and can't be said to do anything strictly useful. Justice is much more like the color blue than it is like a squirrel because it is the basis for having order in society and our system of laws and does not make other little squirrels.


Sam may have gotten a little confused about the extra credit question, but the metaphor had made her head hurt.
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Re: Quizzery [02.02.06]

[personal profile] janet_fraiser 2006-02-02 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Bugs Bunny: What is his deal, in terms of Justice?

Bugs Bunny flouts Justice professionally. I think someone should investigate him, as I have to wonder if these Looney Toons types are a gang of organized Justice flouters. I mean, think about it: A bunny, a duck, a guy with a red handlebar moustache, a befuddled hunter, a cat who can't tell the difference between a mouse and a baby kangaroo, and a Mexican mouse all get together in the name of flouting Justice and making sure Mischief reigns. It's probably the only thing they have in common.

Though that Sailor Duck guy without the pants and the chipmunks in his backyard? I wonder if he's got a similar organization going. The coincidences are eerily alike otherwise.

2. Imagine two puppies quarrelling. Would your usual methods of negotiation/force to stop the fight still be applied? How would things change?

Maybe the puppies are quarrelling for a reason. Maybe they used to be best friends until one redheaded puppy realized the other blonde puppy didn't actually respect her opinions and thought it was okay to try to keep the redheaded first puppy locked inside where she wouldn't be able to get hurt or injured or do anything, for that matter. And maybe the blonde other puppy needs to understand that the first redheaded puppy is going to do whatever the hell she wants because she can make her own decisions based on her own criteria, thank you.

Janet stared at what she'd written, scratched it all out, and wrote instead: Maybe the puppies should just stop talking to each other. Maybe it's better that way.

3. Explain the difference between Vengence and Justice with a metaphor involving the common farm animal of your choice.

Justice is like a chicken, scratching for truth in the barnyard, but Justice can turn into Vengeance when the chicken is looking for a particularly tasty worm and it won't give up scratching until it has what it wants, and it doesn't care who else it hurts in the process.

EC. Please write a brief descriptive paragraph using a comparison between Justice, squirrels and the color blue.

Janet frowns. Her metaphor-writing abilities are horrible.

Squirrels hunt for nuts to store them away for the upcoming winter. Maybe instead of hunting for nuts to store for food, they're hunting for nuts as weapons to use against evildoers. Say, if it's the middle of winter and there is evil afoot in the park, a squirrel can don a little blue spandex superhero uniform but without the cool antennae or the very professorly tie hidden in its nest, and dig into its store of winter nuts. Then, suddenly, the evildoer is pelted with nuts in the name of Justice! And possibly the evildoer will get hit with a nut at just the right angle and repent evil. Or get a soul. But really, how often does that happen? Just driving away evil in the midst of winter is enough.
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Re: Quizzery [02.02.06]

[personal profile] can_be_more 2006-02-02 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Aeryn might be feeling slightly- very slightly- guilty about that safe to class next Tuesday comment. Oops.


1. He's a BUNNY. The fact that a bunny can do any of this, based on the ones I've seen, is highly unlikely, but I'll play along for the sake of my grade. He is a troublemaker who hasn't gotten into trouble for anything, therefore he keeps doing it. There is no god involvement, though apparently you people hand out deities like they're nothing so I could be wrong. He is simply someone who needs some jail time. In a bunny prison. I don't know.


The second question might make Aeryn facepalm.

2. Pick one up, put it in another place. Pick the other up, put it someplace different. It changes because they aren't together to fight anymore.


The third question might actually get a loud sigh out of Aeryn.

3. Justice is getting what you deserve. Vengeance is having it forced upon you, like a sheep that is vengeful against another sheep for doing something bad.


The extra credit will break Aeryn's brain and she's going to need her brain. So she'll just skip that and start writing a series of notes on a separate sheet of paper.

Re: Quizzery [02.02.06]

[identity profile] actingltcrumpet.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
1. I don't know if Bugs Bunny actually negotiated any kind of deal with any Justice-based organization; I don't believe we ever actually reached a conclusion on that. He seems to operate outside of the system, and any actions on his part that might be construed as carrying out Justice are likely purely coincidental, stemming from his own capricious nature. Whether or not any Just intentions were involved may be purely subjective.

2. Not having opted to take Creature Languages, I imagine my communications skills would be woefully inadequate in this situation. Negotiation would be difficult at best. In order to negotiate, I would have to bring in an interpreter who could help myself, the neutral third party, to determine the cause of grievance and help both puppies reach an accord.

That said, were the quarrel to reach violent proportions I think a forceful separation would indeed be in order. Otherwise my sense of pity at seeing two adorable puppies in a wounded state might overwhelm my objectivity and make a fair decision difficult to reach.

3. Justice is the steadfast and vigilant rooster who crows every morning to herald the start of a new day. Vengeance is the capricious rebel possibly alien rooster who crows in the middle of the night to wake the farmer because he felt slighted by a perceived shortness in his daily grain ration.

Archie's imagination, however, seems to have been completely taxed by this point as he doesn't even attempt the extra credit.

[[Now posted in the right place. Yay caffeine.]]

Re: Quizzery [02.02.06]

[identity profile] emo-padawan.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Bugs Bunny: What is his deal, in terms of Justice?
Bugs Bunny is using the powers he has to effect the galaxy around him in a capricious and irresponsible manner. That his punishments often line up with what could traditional be considered Justice is more coincidence than design. Master Bunny should be shipped off to the Jedi Temple for a few months of hard lessons about what manner of responsibilities go with phenomenal cosmic such potentially reality-altering powers.

2. Imagine two puppies quarrelling. Would your usual methods of negotiation/force to stop the fight still be applied? How would things change?

Judging from my experience with puppies like Vladdie and Sean, getting them to sit down at a negotiating table at all would be completely out of the question. So would any form of aggressive negotiation. They could be distracted using shiny objects like glitter and will possibly forget the entire altercation happened at all. In the event of some deep dislike, well, sometimes beings don't like each other. I would do my best to make sure that they didn't come into close proximity to each other in order to reduce the risk of violence.

3. Explain the difference between Vengence and Justice with a metaphor involving the common farm animal of your choice.

The domestic nerfs of Alderaan, when properly supervised, are much like Justice. They go about their nerf-y tasks (I'm a Jedi, not a nerfherder, what the hell do know about what nerfs do?) and no one pays any attention because the system is working. It's only when Society, represented by the nerfherder, looks away from the herd that they can turn to Vengeance, trampling all in their path for, I don't know, whatever nerfs would trample nerfherders to ge to. Then you have a bruised and broken Society and Justice running amok, possibly ruining some kind of rare plant life.

EC. Please write a brief descriptive paragraph using a comparison between Justice, squirrels and the color blue.

Justice is like a serene lake in Naboo full of calm blue water. If the lake is managed well enough, a few squirrels throwing nuts into it--the members of society who just can't leave beautiful things alone, if you would--will not disrupt the lake. Of course, if there's an evil lake monster who has been hiding under the cover of Lake Justice only waiting for its moment to rampage through the countryside of Society, well, we're all screwed then, aren't we?

Re: Quizzery [02.02.06]

[identity profile] mparkerceo.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Bugs Bunny is a repeat offender in stalking, pranking, and property destruction and impromptu re-decoration, motivated by amusement and a lust for attention. He should be sued until he stops, or writes a best-selling novel to cover the expenses he incurs on the public.

2. Aside from just separating them, you have to train them to get along. Education of the utterly wilful and young can help negate violence before it starts. Of course, if they are boy puppies, this is probably still hopeless.

3. Vengeance is like bull which charges at anything waved in its face and quite possibly takes out innocent bystanders and the fences of Society when irate. However, Justice would be leading that same bull into a paddock, feeding it, teaching it to abide by certain guidelines, and thus getting a nice hamburger out of it farther down the road. One has an immediate payoff of spectacle but chaos, the other, concrete benefits.

Re: Quizzery [02.02.06] - Extra Credit

[identity profile] mparkerceo.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Justice is not unlike a flying squirrel. It launches itself into the blue skies of the world, hoping to land on a receptive branch of humanity, but sometimes misses-- but because it is Justice, it flattens itself out, somersaults, twirls, and then finally lands on solid ground. In aiming high for those blue skies, it is often brought down by gravity and the expectations of the population; but it also increases the chances of landing on a higher and higher branch, allowing for a clearer view and more open vista, which it can share with all.

Re: Quizzery [02.02.06]

[identity profile] bridge-carson.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Bugs clearly has issues with Justice. Maybe he was dropped on his head by Justice as a baby bunny or something, because most of the time he seems to be doing his best to thwart it. And if he does do something that aids Justice, it's usually only a coincidence, as he's looking after his own interests first.

2. Well I'm pretty sure puppy-fights are just what they do. Like how sometimes I spar with people in the gym. We're just practicing our skills so we can use them in a dangerous situation. If it got to the point where one of the puppies was seriously endangering the other, I might seperate them. And then give them both a doggie treat, cause sulky puppies are the saddest thing ever.

3. Justice is when a goat eats it's nutritionally-balanced meal that the farmer has given it. Vengeance is when someone steals the shoes of their rivals and gives them to the goat to eat.

So let's say someone wants to be the Red Blue Ranger and works really hard at it and does everything right. But then along comes this street kid squirrel who seems to do everything better than the person who wants to be the Red Blue Ranger, and so he gets the job, even though he doesn't really want it. Justice is when the street kid squirrel finally realises that maybe he should have let the guy who wanted the job have it, and so he does. And everyone's happy. Maybe there's even buttery- Bridge totally stops writing for a second and does a fingerwiggle -toast.

Re: Quizzery [02.02.06]

[identity profile] aka-vala.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
1. In terms of Justice Mr. Bunny seems to be something of a gray hare area: On the one hand he seems to be victimized in many circumstances. In others he gleefully attacks others. Mr. Bunny is most like someone who needs to be hit over the head with the Great Mallet of Decisiveness before his place in the Scheme of Justice is settled.

2. Being bigger than they are would make things easier to stop the puppies, as I would simply separate them by force immediately. However the language barrier would make things more difficult, as -- unless it was obvious -- it might be difficult to tell what the fight was about. Plus, their youth would argue for a certain level of tolerance and understanding. Ultimately I'd probably end up swatting them on the nose with the Rolled-Up Newspaper of Time-Out.

3. ZOMG Dirty! Justice is the patient, well-trained camel who bears the loads of Truth and Protection on its back, able to go many miles between drinks of Applause and the crunchy grass of Recognition. Vengeance is the poorly trained camel who spits the saliva of Rage in the Face of Justice and refuses to rise from the Sands of Obsession.

EC. Justice is like a blue squirrel against the Sky of Life. On Clear Days of Happiness it can't clearly be seen, but on Dark Days of Trouble it stands out clearly against the Storm Clouds of Fear and the Jagged Lightening of Wrongdoing.

Re: Quizzery [02.02.06]

[identity profile] marsheadtilt.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Bugs Bunny: What is his deal, in terms of Justice?

Bugs Bunny is often on the wrong side of Justice, but somehow things always turn out right for him in the end.

2. Imagine two puppies quarrelling. Would your usual methods of negotiation/force to stop the fight still be applied? How would things change?

I would try to separate the puppies and determine what caused the quarrel. Then I would determine if they were real puppies, or students turned in to animals. If they were real puppies, I would not try to reason with them, I would just stick them in separate rooms or cages. If they were students turned into puppies, I would explain why what they were doing was wrong.

3. Explain the difference between Vengence and Justice with a metaphor involving the common farm animal of your choice.

Justice is like a cow, steady and resilent and always ready to do what is asked of it, whereas Vengence is like a bull, which doesn't always think before it acts, just charges in.

EC. Please write a brief descriptive paragraph using a comparison between Justice, squirrels and the color blue.

Justice is like a squirrel, something you're vaguely aware of, but don't generally pay attention to. But if the squirrel was blue, you would be more likely to notice it, which is why police cars have blue lights. that really makes no sense, omg
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Re: Quizzery [02.02.06]

[personal profile] fates_jaye 2006-02-03 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Bugs Bunny is just trying to have some fun because he can. And he takes out muggers or thugs or what have you on the baseball diamond. You might actually call him a hero. An anti-hero, maybe.

2. If it was just a little puppy fight and they weren't hurting anyone but themselves... Okay, I'd have to pick one of them up, maybe tease the other a little because he can't bite his little not-friend, because really, they're puppies. Puppies shouldn't get hurt. Though puppy playfights can be really cute.

But if there are teeth and biting involved when it comes to me, I'm so calling animal control.

3. Justice is like a horse, dignified and steedly in its pursuit of championship trophies justice keeping things good. Vengeance is more like the rat in Charlotte's Web, who can do something good every now and then, but you're not so cool on its ethics.

EC: Can I work on this one?

Re: Quizzery [02.02.06]

[identity profile] cameronmitchell.livejournal.com 2006-02-06 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Bugs Bunny is an accidental hero for Justice. The few times that he manages to fight for Justice, it was not because he consciously made the decision to do what is right. His intentions are for the most part selfish.

2. I would seperate the two puppies and maybe even punish them for the fighting. Theoretically, this is exactly how law inforcement works. Break both parties up, find who is guilty and give a punishment according to the crime. However, there is a huge difference in handling things when it comes to puppies. We don't expect the puppies to fully grasp why what they are doing is right or wrong. We hope that by punishing them, they will stop their behaviour but we don't expect them to understand the reasoning behind it. We're conditioning them. In a normal fight between humans, we want the people to understand that what they are doing is wrong and to take responsibility for their actions.

3. Justice is like the dog who herds the sheep back to their barn. It is the watchful eye that makes sure no one strays from the path and brings those home that do. Vengence is like the dog who catches the fox that bit all the chickens' heads off and does the same to the fox.

EC. Justice is an ideal that our imperfect society tries to reach. It is like the squirrels who jump from tree to tree and climb up the highest branches to reach the perfect blue sky. But sometimes the blue just stays out of reach, no matter how high the squirrel tries to jump.
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Re: After the Quiz [02.02.06]

[personal profile] janet_fraiser 2006-02-02 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Janet finished her quiz, turned it in, and absolutely didn't look in Sam's direction. Except maybe to glare every once in a while when she thought Sam wasn't looking.

Re: After the Quiz [02.02.06]

[identity profile] carter-i-am.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Sam didn't look in Janet's direction either. There was no glaring and there absolutely wasn't a little guilty glance at Janet every so often.
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Re: After the Quiz [02.02.06]

[personal profile] janet_fraiser 2006-02-02 03:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Janet very resolutely looked through her notes and practiced her metaphor-writing. Not that she was really able to get a handle on it. Especially what with all the time she spent glaring at her paper.

So she gave up and started desconstructing genetic code from memory. And glaring at Sam while her back was turned.

Re: After the Quiz [02.02.06]

[identity profile] carter-i-am.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Sam ignored Janet completely and went to work drawing slings and stake pouches in the margins of her notebook.
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Re: After the Quiz [02.02.06]

[personal profile] can_be_more 2006-02-02 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Aeryn's done with her quiz and taking notes. On other stuff. Studying stuff.

Re: After the Quiz [02.02.06]

[identity profile] mparkerceo.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Parker really should've gotten coffee before this quiz. Really.

Re: After the Quiz [02.02.06]

[identity profile] marsheadtilt.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
After finishing her quiz, Veronica pulled out a tablet and scribbled a note.

When Logan was done, she passed it to him.

My room tonight? Around 8? I'll make popcorn if you bring a movie.