Advanced Criminal Justice, Class 28, Period 1, 04.20.06

[bugofjustice.livejournal.com]

[OOC: Continuing "Raid Wiki For Info" Week! Also, I've finally updated the Class Info Post.]

"Hello, students! Today we're discussing two opposing models of Justice. But first, a reminder: there's only a week of classes left!"

"Okay, the two models are the Conflict Model and the Consensus Model. The Conflict Model states that the organizations in the Justice System should - and perhaps do! - come into contention with each other. For example, police are determined to put people in prison and even have clearance rates. Similar stories with the prosecutors. But prison officials may be concerned wiith overcrowding and do what they can to limit their numbers. Perhaps they even let criminals out more easily."

"Another example would be the way that police can be so determined to arrest superheroes sometimes. Or the courts with their fines for public destruction. It's all conflict. Competition, even, to see which wheel on the Tricycle of Justice is the best."

"On the other end of the theoretical teeter totter is the Consensus Model. It says that the Justice System should - and perhaps does! - work together and cooperate. The police and courts work together to send bad people to prison. The prisons hold the bad people. Superheroes assist where they can. The important thing is that, egads, we're on a tricycle and we're having fun! Look at us zoom down this hill! Wheee!"

"Some people have speculated that we shoot for Consensus but Conflict is our reality. My question for you is what do you think about the whole thing? Consensus? Conflict? Are we one? Are we the other? Is one better? What are we doing with our shiny, red tricycle?"

"Please discuss!"

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Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[bugofjustice.livejournal.com]

Tricycles!

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[notstakedyet.livejournal.com]

Angel thought about it.

"Isn't the front wheel of a tricycle bigger than the other two?"

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[bugofjustice.livejournal.com]

The Tick smiled. "Yes, it is!"

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[marsheadtilt.livejournal.com]

Veronica tossed a note to Angel.

Have you talked to Logan much this week? I'm worried about how he's handling everything. Did he open up to you at all? I know he tries to hide his emotions most of the time.

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[psycho-barbie.livejournal.com]

Callisto had no idea what a tricycle was so she just looked vaguely confused.

She also totally wasn't keeping an eye out for Logan for any reason whatsoever.

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[bugofjustice.livejournal.com]

The Tick later explained what a tricycle was (http://community.livejournal.com/fandomhigh/829107.html?thread=38427571#t38427571) while talking to Aeryn. Convenient, no?

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[marsheadtilt.livejournal.com]

"I think that sometimes the cops are in too much of a hurry to arrest someone and get them in jail in high profile crimes," Veronica said, thinking about her own personal experiences in Neptune. "And then, once they have what they think is their man, they make any other evidence they find fit that theory, instead of letting the evidence tell the truth."

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[bugofjustice.livejournal.com]

"Do you think the courts, to pick a wheel at random, support this, or does it hurt them enough to cause conflict with the police?"

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[oatmanspatient.livejournal.com]

Marty tapped his pencil trying to think up an answer. "I'd have to agree that we try for the Consensus model, but end up having the conflict. So in this particular case? Our tricycle wheels are horribly out of alignment and is extremely wobbly and hard to steer."

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[bugofjustice.livejournal.com]

"Well said, Marty!" Tick said. That was one of the best uses of the tricycle metaphor he'd heard all semester.

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[fates_jaye]

Last night Jaye got to report to everyone that both exes are going to prom with friends of hers, yet she is still dateless. And they're allllllll in this class right now.

Jaye would be in a pissy mood.

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[oatmanspatient.livejournal.com]

Marty missed Jaye while he was gone.

And is also oblivious to Jaye's pissy mood.

He throws a paper wad at her head.

DOINK! DOINK!

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[carter-i-am.livejournal.com]

As long as she was passing notes, Sam slipped one to Jaye, feeling bad about abandoning the snark corner.

Would it help you to know that neither of us asked the other one and we're just going as friends?

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[cameronmitchell.livejournal.com]

"I think I agree that we'd like the reality to be a consensus model, but that isn't always possibly so we end up with conflict." Cameron replied.

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[janet_fraiser]

"I like tricycles," said Janet. "Especially when everyone works together to make sure the tricycle operates smoothly. So, cooperative." Janet took a drink of her coffee. A very large drink. Because really, she theoretically needed to be awake to come to class. "Can I have a shiny green tricycle instead?" The red would clash with her hair.

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[bugofjustice.livejournal.com]

"You'll have to ask the tricycle manufacturer, of course," Tick said with a smile. "Well said with the metaphor, though."

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[can_be_more]

No one is allowed to snicker or they die, just a warning.

"What's a tricycle?" Aeryn asks, because she's missing a piece of information for the metaphor.

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[cameronmitchell.livejournal.com]

There's no snickering. Just staring because it's Aeryn and it's pink and when she told him about it yesterday he didn't realise she'd actually wear it.

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[bugofjustice.livejournal.com]

"A tricycle is a three-wheeled, pedal-powered vehicle usually used by children. They are often red and shiny."

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[actingltcrumpet.livejournal.com]

"Does it have to be a tricycle?" asked Archie. "Why can't it be a carriage?

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[bugofjustice.livejournal.com]

Lockheed was sitting on his normal shelf.

The Tick had no clue that his detention slips were missing. Lockheed had taken some time writing each student's name on a slip. He wondered how many of these he could hand out.

This would be fun.

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[mparkerceo.livejournal.com]

Parker frowned. "So, does the Public Defender's office come in as part of the court system? Or are they they an entirely separate toy? Maybe a Big Wheel?" She yawned, and glared at her coffee. "Sorry. But if we're talking conflict and cooperation, they're an anomaly. They're supposed to defend those without any other representation, after all."

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[emo-padawan.livejournal.com]

Anakin frowned. "I guess that in the Republic our three wheels of Justice would be the courts, the local law enforcement, and the Jedi. Depending on the planet or the issue, the, um, tricycle is either moving fine or limping along with only one and a half wheel--the Jedi serving as a balance to corruption in some of the Outer Rim worlds where the local law enforcement isn't concerned with justice and the Republic courts aren't concerned with the Outer Rim."

He ran a hand through his hair. "I think the Jedi serve as the big front wheel in Republic justice--I don't see how it would work if we weren't there."

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[bridge-carson.livejournal.com]

"Balance is important," Bridge says. "And three's a good number for balance. It's really hard to tip a tricycle over, after all."

Re: Talk, Take Notes, Pass Notes, Etc. [Class 28]

[carter-i-am.livejournal.com]

If Sam was more awake, she'd be giggling every time she looked at Professor Tick. All things considered, it's probably better that she's not more awake.

"I think we aspire to the Consesus model, but human nature being what it is, we're doomed to Conflict."