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Ethics, Tuesday, April 14, 2015

"Last weekend saw you with an influx of potential children from your futures," Obi-Wan said. "I am led to believe this is not an unusual occurrence..."

Anakin shook his head. "It happens annually, or near enough. Some of those children are more likely than others. Some are practically impossible."

Sorry, Tebb.

"Whereas others might be almost unavoidable," Obi-Wan said wryly. He had had none, which suited him fine. Minding Anakin's children from a distance was enough for him. "Normally, prophecy does not take such... practical forms. But regardless of what form they take, notions of what the future might be are often vague, and easy to misinterpret. It is such ideas about the future we would like to speak of today."

"Precisely," Anakin said. "And prophecies are notoriously unhelpful and stupid about such things."

Not that he was suuuuper bitter or anything.

Obi-Wan began to pace around the room. "So now that you have met these children and seen these futures, my question is: would you work towards them? Work away from them? Do you believe it is even possible to do such a thing? And if you had no children, do you believe that says anything about your future?"

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"So now that you have met these children and seen these futures, my question is: would you work towards them? Work away from them? Do you believe it is even possible to do such a thing? And if you had no children, do you believe that says anything about your future?"

"I don't want kids," Ronan said, shaking his head. He had enough to worry about besides other greywarens wandering around. "I don't plan on having them and if someone ever asks, I might punch them."

Maybe.

"So this weekend has only solidified a decision you had already made?" Obi-Wan asked, tilting his head. "Have you any interest in mentioning why?"

He phrased like that deliberately. He'd met Ronan before.

"Why would I want a kid to disrupt my life?" he asked, shrugging. "It's not like they make me happy. I've got other things to do."

And he knew how angry he was and would continue to be.

"So you would view a child as a disruption, and not an addition or a simple part of your life?" Obi-Wan asked. "Some feel they enrich life and pave a path to the future."

Said the guy who was perfectly happy being crazy uncle to somebody else's kids instead.

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"So, I do want kids someday, and my kid this time was adorable," Alana began, because it was impossible to talk about Ruby and not mention that. "But it seemed like she was kind of a thing that happened because I didn't have better ideas? From what she said it sounded like I hung around on earth after graduation and eventually ... y'know, the birds and the bees."

Somehow it was hard to frankly mention sex around Jedi. She thought she might spontaneously combust if she tried.

"And that's not something I'd work toward," she said. "Not like home is so great, but it's home. I don't want my life or my kids to be what happens because I suck at planning."

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Anakin looked a little abashed. "Well...it happens sometimes."

Cough.

"Well, yeah," Alana conceded. "But I don't think it's anybody's future plan."

"Doesn't mean it's not anyone's future," Anakin said. "I had twins by the time I was twenty-three."

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Face shrugged. "I seemed to have decided to cut myself off at the pass," he said. "My kid deliberately didn't tell me anything I could use to figure out how she came to be except that she was adopted. Which I could have guessed myself without much trouble."

"Did you already expect to have a child at some point in your life?" Obi-Wan asked.

Face shrugged. "No more than any other human my age might. You know, grow up, find someone you like, have kids, no actual specifics on when any of those might happen."

"Has any of that changed over the weekend?"

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"I did not have any children visit," Minako answered politely - if somewhat coldly. "I choose to think it does not mean anything one way or the other. Maybe I'm a really good mom and taught her children not wander off through strange glowing doors. Or maybe none of my futures or alternate selves have children, but while I'm not the best at math, I'm preeetty sure the odds are against that."

"But I won't know until I get to the future - which you can never actually - do," FAMOUS LAST WORDS, MINAKO. "So why worry about what that says about the future?"

"Some people are programmed to worry," Anakin said with a little smile.

The gods and their prophecies had already toyed with Soren's life quite enough, thank you.

"No one showed up for me," Soren shared. "But I wouldn't have expected anyone to, had I known what was coming. Right now, the possibility of children seems- extremely unlikely."

Obi-Wan raised an eyebrow at the phrasing of that statement - but that was also what made him avoid pressing.

"And you are content with this?" he asked. "Would something have changed in your perception if a child had shown up?"

"A berserker's life is a hard one," Soren said. "I may have accepted my own fate, but that doesn't mean I'd wish to bring any more in to this world. If someone had shown, though, I think I would be more concerned about future events that might lead to their existence, yes."

"I wasn't here for the weekend," Kaylin said, looking a little baffled. "And I didn't have any children show up. At least not other than the one I was helping to birth."

Wouldn't that have been great. The other Hawks would never have let her live it doen.

"But I don't think I should have children."

She hadn't done a good job of taking care of them before.

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"Why not?" Anakin asked.

"I don't - can't - take care of them well," Kaylin said. "I can barely take care of myself."

"Well, you're young yet," Anakin said, "but it's good to know your own limitations."

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"I had two," Kathy said softly. "But I really doubt either of them happening. That's not the kind of relationship I have with their fathers, for one, and I don't really see that changing. I want kids, and I'm sure I'll have them someday, I just don't think it's likely they'll be either of those."

And part of her was sad for that, as both Zeke and Carys had tugged on her heartstrings a lot.

"And having so many demanding your attention did not put you off of the concept?" Obi-Wan asked, smiling faintly.

"Not really," Kathy said. "I mean, that's just what little kids do. There's always going to be something demanding my attention. Little kids at least have a good reason for it. And a lot of benefits otherwise."

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