fandomhigh | Advanced Criminal Justice, Class 14, Period 1, 02.23.06

[ooc: Hi! I have nothing to say, really. But there's always an OOC note. Oh! Wait, yes I do. I would totally have your grades for your essays up today, but um, still missing them from a couple people. If you don't get them in by this weekend? I'm not grading them, and you're going down a grade. Letting you know. Anyway. Class Info Post]

Rory sat on Tick's desk, looking very, very grumpy. All her limbs were still attached, though, and she was nursing a large cup of coffee.

"So. Hi. Professor Tick unfortunately couldn't be here today, so I'll be leading the discussion today."

"Last class, we talked about how Justice is implemented in Fandom. Do you guys think what happens around here is fair, as a whole? Furthermore, and this isn't just in Fandom, but do you think Justice can ever be viewed as subjective? Or, rather, the way said Justice is implemented.

I mean, let's say that someone, for instance, had nothing to do with the casting of a play, and she got horribly punished anyway, because the person who got cast thought it was in the name of Jusice to curse her, or something? Is that right, or wrong? Whoever cursed this person probably thought they were doing it for the good of the school, but they were misguided. Some might argue that Justice had become more like revenge then.

Once Justice is enacted due to a personal vendetta of sorts, does it cross the line from objective, fair Justice to subjective revenge? Or is there a middle ground? Discuss. And if you want to know what I'm talking about, ask me about my arms and legs. Seriously. I dare you."

Rory scowled, and paused. "Um, and for extra credit? Give me names of people who could conceivably cast a curse or whatever. Who live here. Who don't like plays, or brunettes, or something. Oh! And Logan, I need to talk to you when you have a second. After class, if it needs to be."

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Talk! Ask Rory WTF is up with her mood and/or limbs! Whatever!

It can totally be verbal. Rory's making a list, omg.

Hi, Logan. Unless you grabbed Rory earlier. In which case, hi anyone who stops by after class.

Because why not? Seriously?

And is everyone happy that I didn't do my comment threads as lyrics to EtS or the Killer Bees song today, omg?

"I don't think that because there is some sort of revenge involved, that that means that you automatically can't be fair." Cameron replied, probably a bit too worked up in the subject as he found that Tick has pretty much told him the opposite. "As long as the person involved knows not to take it too far and is actually motivated to do the right thing. Blindly hurting someone because you think you've been done wrong however is just not cool."

He paused and stared at Rory who looked very much like her whorey counterpart right now. "You got cursed?"

"Something like that."

Rory gave a quick yank on her wrist, and her arm came cleanly off. She held it up and waved at Cameron with the hand on the arm in question.

"So, how far is too far is the question, I guess," she said, poking her arm back into place. "I'm sure whoever did this to me didn't think they were going too far."

Cameron wrinkled his nose. "Dude, gross. Although, it is kinda neat? Does it hurt?"

He shrugged, "Yeah, probably way too far here."

So very awesome. Thank you for killing me. Now excuse me while I hobble back to work all zombified.

"Doesn't hurt at all," Rory said, shaking her head. "And I'm getting better at not having them randomly fall off, and stuff."

She sighed. "But who decides how far is too far?"

Sam shrugged. "I think that all Justice is subjective, to some extent. For instance, a criminal who is convicted won't necessarily think that's just, though the victim of the crime may feel that it is. Plus, there's the sentence--the criminal may think it's too stringent, while the victim or victim's family may feel that it's too light."

"As for personal vendettas," she thought of a certain jacket, "sometimes it's about making the proper statement so the injured person can get some closure."

She may have looked a bit confused about the arms and legs thing, but judging by the expression on Rory's face, today wasn't the day to ask.

*shoos you away* Go work omg.

"Maybe the Magical Theory teacher?" asked Janet. "Does she know magic?"

He scratched the back of his neck. "At least that's something. Here I was thinking seeing in black and white sucked."

"The law?"

Rory nodded. "I think so, too. And that's why we have laws and stuff. But what about when people carry out Justice in their own way, outside of the law? Then there's no objectivity at all, unless that person is extremely level-headed, or whatever."

"If you punish someone for something they're not at fault for," said Janet. "Then it isn't even revenge. It's misguided, and I'd say that would be considered injustice."

"Possibly. But I can't see Ms. Calendar doing this," Rory said, writing Jenny's name down. "I suppose Skeeter might have done it too, but neither of them has a motive."

"But you thought you were getting revenge or something on someone who deserved it? It's misguided, yeah, but an attempt at your own form of Justice."

"But if you're acting outside the law to begin with, that doesn't work," Rory said. "And wait, you're seeing in black and white? Did you hit your head?"

"I wouldn't say there's no objectivity," Sam argued. "Although there's certainly less of it. But even the laws we deal with are not always just, nor is the way they're implemented or enforced. Things slip through the cracks."

"Feeling a little persecuted Rory?" Marty said with a little grin. "But to get back to topic: Yes. Justice is always subjective and will always be affected by a person's own bias."

"Someone from the I-club magic portion? Belthazor has cast a few spells," Marty suggested.

During the class Janet may notice that Marty is giving her a strange look.

Towards the end of class Marty walks by her desk with an envelope that contains this (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a244/oatmanspatient/janet.jpg) and a post-it that says: "We need to talk."

"But I can't see Piper doing this," said Janet. "She's just not that kind of person."

"Did they investigate first to determine whether the blame placed was deserved?" asked Janet.

During class, Sam might notice Marty giving her strange looks.

Towards the end of class she might notice Marty drop something on Janet's desk. (http://community.livejournal.com/fandomhigh/668038.html?thread=31736198#t31736198)

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