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fandomhigh2005-09-12 05:32 pm
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Advanced Negotiations
OOC: All sections and Independent Study should comment to any course post. It feels really silly to post the same thing a couple times over.
IC:
*walks into class carrying only a large envelope*
Hello class. I trust your weekend was restful.
*She looks around and noted several hungover faces*
Or not.
Today we have only one topic and of course to turn in last week's assignment.
*She pulls out a picture from the envelope and tacks it to the board*
This is our subject for today. Harmless looking, oh yes, but deceptively so. It is a living example of how something can look one way, but then prove to be something entirely different. This is a reality to which you much get used to quickly as deception is something that you will all face in your lives if you have not already to some degree. We will discussion deception in more detail next time.
For now, I want this:
How would you realistically go into advanced negotiations with a tree that attacks people? Is it even possible? If it is, explain in detail and in real time, try to negotiate with said attack tree. If negotiations are not possible, how would you go about dealing with the tree? Then, in real time, try putting an end to the tree's reign of terror. To the victor goes the reward of a perfect core and a ride in my ship to your destination of choice.
IC:
*walks into class carrying only a large envelope*
Hello class. I trust your weekend was restful.
*She looks around and noted several hungover faces*
Or not.
Today we have only one topic and of course to turn in last week's assignment.
*She pulls out a picture from the envelope and tacks it to the board*
This is our subject for today. Harmless looking, oh yes, but deceptively so. It is a living example of how something can look one way, but then prove to be something entirely different. This is a reality to which you much get used to quickly as deception is something that you will all face in your lives if you have not already to some degree. We will discussion deception in more detail next time.
For now, I want this:
How would you realistically go into advanced negotiations with a tree that attacks people? Is it even possible? If it is, explain in detail and in real time, try to negotiate with said attack tree. If negotiations are not possible, how would you go about dealing with the tree? Then, in real time, try putting an end to the tree's reign of terror. To the victor goes the reward of a perfect core and a ride in my ship to your destination of choice.

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I'd say first stay out of the tree's reach. Then I'd assume since trees have no ears, it won't listen to negotiation. That's when you distract it with something one one side, and get your large, strong friend to sneak up the other with a chainsaw.
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Flamethrower?
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Good answer, but what if the tree should stillbe moving while aflame. You run the risk of a large scale fire and putting yourself in peril.
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kiss-up pointseffectiveness with the teacher.Master Kenobi always said that if it has a mind it can be reasoned with, but I've never really found that to be true. I would see if there were a reason that this tree felt it necessary to, for example, keep tossing teachers into the lake, and see if it could be persuaded to stop. Since the tree seems to laugh every time it does such a thing, I'm believing it's unlikely that such behavior would be stopped. Being such a massive thing, I think it's also unlikely it could moved. In that case, and for the safety and well-being of the school, it would have to be destroyed. Branch by branch, if necessary.
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Now how would you go about destroying it, "branch by branch"? The logistics of it may be difficult.
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I don't think there is a way to peacefully negotiate with an attacking tree
just like there is no way to peacefully negotiate with a large white interferring bouncing ball. It is times like that that shiny sharp objects become tools of negotiation.no subject
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Couldn't you figure out it's weak point maybe? Most magical artifacts have some sort of trigger.
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*looks at the picture with curiosity*
I would presume that you can't actually communicate with the tree. However, it is living, so does that not mean that it has a right to live? If it sees the persons it attacks as a threat to it; something which we do, only with the military, then can we judge it for what it does.
I'd head over to the physicists and see if they could come up with some sort of force-field or something to restrain it. Maybe it would calm it down? It certainly would prevent people from going near it anymore and being attacked
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That is an excellent and very feasible idea. You're the first to suggest a nonviolent and might I add, clever solution.
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Name: Aeryn Sun
Date: whatever day of whatever month you people have
Class: Advanced Negotiations
I think my translator microbes are frelling up again. I thought you said a tree.
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What's an Orc?
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Uh, I'm guessing that the tree doesn't talk? Do you know if it can, uh, hear? 'Cause then you'd just havta get some kinda plant that *can* talk and they could, like, mediate or something. 'Course.. the only one I know is, um, gone. Oh!
Otherwise, I'd go with the princess' flamethrower plan.
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Realistically, ma'am? I haven't met any trees that attack people. But if there were, then I suppose I'd probably have to work under the reasoning that trees can't communicate.
Of course, if evidence was presented that explored the possibility that the tree was trying to communicate with us, then I'd have to rig up something so we could talk with it. Starting with 'humans are sentient beings, too' and working our way around to 'you killed my team-mate,
prepare to dieand that's unacceptable'.Putting an end to the tree's reign of terror? Maybe a sign or label nearby to warn people. Cordon it off, perhaps?
And if all else failed, then I'd blow it up. With C4 explosives.
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*goes and sits next to Pheobe*
C4, ma'am.
a few pounds of C4 should do ok in taking it down.
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C4?
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Well, I have some experience with trees that fight back. I've learned that crashing a flying car into them will do some damage...about the only good thing Potter has ever done. Personally I'd blow the thing up to hell and back. You'll get so much satisfaction out of that.
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Explosives sound promising. But you'd have to get in and get the roots, too, or it'll just come back to get you later.
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Ma'am, I was thinking what sort of tree would this be? If it does attack people, that would mean it is sort of sentient so maybe it can be reasoned with. Not by talking obviously, but perhaps by intimidation. Using a helicopter, a tarp might be able to be lowered on top of it so it wouldn't get any sunlight. After a certain period of time, the tarp could be lifted. Showing of our higher power because we can walk around, might intimidate the tree enough to calm down. Unless of course this is against the Convention of Geneva.
If the tree remains hostile, we might have to resort to taking it out completely. A grenade would probably do the job and you wouldn't have to get close.
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If the tree is stationary, I'd use a standard tactical approach with a four-man team under the cover of night. The idea is to get a thick rope of some kind and arrange it so that it loops around the tree.
This can't be done up close, so we'd have to make it real long and ensure that there's a fair distanced perimeter around the tree, looping it at least once, preferrably three or more times. Then, when the rope is in position, pull the rope (maybe using a humvee or a tank depending on how heavy the rope is) and anchor it to a sturdy foundation. This will secure the tree so it can't move, thus making it more likely to stay put and listen to negotiations.
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And that is a very good potential move. You've thought this out.
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Negotiation implies that both parties are of roughly equal intelligence and are both willing to compromise. An effort (if we are trying to be fair) should be made to discover if this violent tree matches us in intelligence, and also if it has any interest in negotiation at all. From what I have heard and seen, the former is debatable, but the latter is not. The tree exists to be violent and attack people, it will not change.
It follows that we should try and determine the tree's level of sapience. Threats of violence might cow it if it's clever, but would not slow a mere plant. Once that is determined, there is one final thing to consider.
*smiles winningly at the Professor* Do you want it merely destroyed, or do you want it to suffer first?
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*blinks* Can you argue with a tree? Like, does it have a mouth and stuff?
Cause if it can't talk, you might as well just chop it down. Or avoid it.
(OOC- so so sorry, i forgot Faith was in the class.)
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