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[brambless.livejournal.com]

Tara grins broadly at the students as they enter, her good mood almost super-human.

"Hey. Only three weeks until the end of term, huh? I don't know about you, but that kind of snuck up on me! So today we've got a pretty heavy discussion topic, and I want you to remember that this is just a class. Emo Closet is there if you need it, although I hope we call all be gentle enough with one another that it won't be necessary, okay?

"Because today, folks, we're going to be talking about rape - and all I'm going to ask you folks to do is define it."

Comments

Re: OOC Discussion

[shane-mcc.livejournal.com]

Not to go meta or anything but Tara's good mood has no bearing on the subject matter.

It's a serious discussion and an even more serious subject, I will grant you that, but ... this is ethics class. Talking about good and evil and exploring all of the twisty aspects and gray areas. You signed up for this class... you've seen what kind of excercises and discussions and projects there have been so far. I'm not saying that you don't have the right to be pissed or unpleasantly surprised, but... you literally signed up for this. *shrug*

Re: OOC Discussion

[sooo_cute]

Unfortunately, if you're not following the Tara plot, there's no way to know that, and it looks inappropriate. And I'm not the only one who thought this.

And honestly? If I'd known that we were going to be doing master/slave assignments and discussions of rape, I never would have signed any of my girls up for this class. But I didn't. The only reason I didn't drop Quinn after the m/s bit was because I figured we wouldn't be going through this same thing again, and then the add/drop period was over. As it is, I'm looking forward to the end of the semester.

Re: OOC Discussion

[shane-mcc.livejournal.com]

That's entirely at people's discretion, of course, to make assumptions based on what they see. They'd be wrong... but they're within their rights to make those assumptions.

And looking forward to the end of the semester is just fine. Once again, perfectly within your rights. However... taking it out on Tara - not only IG but OOG? - is unnecessary, uncalled for and immature.

Re: OOC Discussion

[sooo_cute]

Quinn's reaction is IC, not that I need to explain any of my actions IC or OOC to you. The only reason she went along with the m/s assignment was because she was in charge, and even then she threatened to sue the school if she ever got another assignment like this. Therefore, we don't have a happy Quinn.

As for OOG, I'm sure you would have been completely fine with me saying something if I said "Good job". It's not unnecessary, because this all upset me and I am not only entitled to say so, but isn't that what the OOC comments are for? It's not uncalled for for the exact same reasons. And it's not immature, as I'm stating my opinion, and not throwing a whiny hissy fit. If Tara has a problem with any of this, she can come to me IC or OOC and I'll say the same things, but I'm not discussing this with you anymore.

I'm ending the conversation here, as I've already gone to the mods with my feelings on this and have encouraged the others complaining about this to do the same.

Re: OOC Discussion

[shane-mcc.livejournal.com]

As for OOG, I'm sure you would have been completely fine with me saying something if I said "Good job".

I've been a writer for a very long time? So I really do understand the benefits of constructive criticism. I've also been in fandom for a long time - long enough to know that not everyone's going to have something entirely positive to say. HOWEVER. How one chooses to express that constructive criticism is exceedingly important, I think.

You said 'this pisses me off a lot' - and that's fine. Like I said, that's how you feel, you're entitled to that and I'm not trying to tell you otherwise.

I'm just saying that maybe you could have phrased things a bit better so that it didn't come off sounding like (what I thought) was an attack and, hence, unnecessary, uncalled for and immature.

Your reaction was knee-jerk, just the same as mine was - and I'm not saying you didn't think about it, because you obviously did, as evidenced by your other responses - all I'm trying to say is that it was an instinctive reaction, for both of us.