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Ethics Class - catch up session, 10am-4pm

Tara posts the class list on the door, as promised in her email, detailing the gaps in each student's participation. Penned at the bottom in a neat round hand is a note: Some of you may have discussed these with TAs out of class. Please inform me if this is the case.

She looks happy and well-rested as she sets up discussion stations around the room.

[ooc: I'll put names on the comment threads for the people who haven't completed them, rather than listing up here. Because I'm odd that way.]

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"Under what circumstances would you, personally, kill someone? Try to consider euthanasia and what you might do under duress as well as self defence."

For Allie, Bridge, Evie, Lindsey, Logan, Piper, Shane, Six, Stark, Veronica, and Xander.

Drawing a line beneath her answer for the first discussion question, Shane then brings the pen up to her mouth, chewing thoughtfully on the cap for a moment.

"I would kill someone if they seriously injured one of the people I love.

Self defense: I might... but that would depend on who it is trying to hurt me.

Euthanasia: If there was no chance, no hope at all, and I knew the person wanted it to be that way, then yes.

Under duress: I'd try to find a way so that I wouldn't have to."

"I would kill someone in self-defense, especially if a loved one was being threatened. And I wouldn't hesitate to defend myself if my life was in danger. I would consider euthanasia if the person suffering asked me to."

"Self-defense, and defending people who were being attacked. Stopping somebody who was gonna cause widespread death and destruction, too, or already had.

Not saying I'd be happy about killing somebody that can walk and talk and think, but if all the use that for is to hurt other people, and there's no way they're gonna change?"

Xander thinks hard about the other options. "I... don't know if I could kill somebody I cared about, even if they asked me to. Mercy killing, I mean, not if they headed up to the clocktower with a semi-automatic."

"And if they went up the clocktower? Would you be able to stop them, even though you loved them?"

"I..." Xander frowns and looks at his hands. "Maybe? I hope so, but I don't honestly know. Don't ever want to need to know."

Nodding, Tara replies softly, "It's the sort of thing you can never really know unless you're put in the position. Let's try it this way - would you want to be able to do it?"

Xander thinks of the example he gave for the previous question - and then he thinks of how it might be for him to have to do it - to Buffy. Or Willow. What it might have been like, years ago, if some clumsy idiot in the Bronze hadn't taken the decision to kill a friend out of his hands entirely.

"In theory, yeah. Somebody needs to be the guy who can do that. In practice..." Xander shakes his head. "I really don't want it to be me."

"I hope it never has to be," Tara replies quietly.

There are people I would kill to protect. I would do anything to keep her from dying again. I could kill to save myself, but I don't know if I would.

Helping someone to die, someone who wants to go and who is very ill, that's not murder. I would do that. Have done that.

"If someone was trying to kill me, or someone I cared about, I would kill them." She seems a little nervous. "I don't really think I'd want to, though."

"I don't really know if I'd be able to kill anyone for any reason. I mean, I'd probably be able to do it in self-defense or protecting somebody else, but I'd rather not have to. Ever. Or even come close. As for euthanasia, I'd like to think I'd be able to do that for a loved one, if it was really their best option, but who knows what would happen if I really had to consider it. It's fine to say I'd do something hypothetically, but I have no idea what I'd do in a real life or death situation."

"I think... I don't think I could ever really get mad enough to kill anyone. Um, mercy killing? I'm not sure, I mean, I'd want to help but I really don't think I'm capable of something like that."

Allie writes:

I don't think I would be capable of killing anyone under any circumstances.

Veronica writes:

I absolutely would kill someone if my life, or the life of someone I loved, was in danger.

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