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Concepts of Justice and The Law [Period 4, Class #5, Feb 2]

"This week," Alex said, as she leaned against her desk, "we're changing the syllabus up a little, and jumping ahead to victimless crimes. It seemed like a better fit here. We'll get to civil liberties later on in the term."

With that, she scooped up a piece of chalk and began writing, continuing her lecture as she did so. "John Stuart Mill wrote an essay called On Liberty. It was his philosophical principles on which he felt government should be formed. In it, he lays out something which has come to be known as the Harm Principle. And that is ..."

She stopped and underlined the sentence she had been writing, then stepped away so the students could read it.

That the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others.


"Very simple," she said. "Laws should only protect against harm. Mill felt that the government should not have the right to restrict any behavior that wasn't directly tied to harm. Mill was therefore against something we know as the Offense Principle: the idea that certain rules should be made to protect citizens from themselves, or for the good of society as a whole. Detractors of the Offense Principle call these charges 'victimless crimes.'

"To give you a clearer example, let's talk about drug abuse. Some believe that any citizen should have the right to place any substance in his own body; he has consented, so it is no longer the government's concern in any way. Others say an addict is no longer able to freely consent, and that the government should intervene on his behalf. And some will argue that the cost is too large to society as a whole: that drug addicts are unlikely to be functioning members of society, and in some cases, are more likely to be violent when seeking a fix.

Alex lifted her shoulders and set the chalk down again. "I specified 'addiction' and 'abuse' because it's easier to see the harm. It would be difficult to say that recreational drug use is acceptable, but addiction is against the law. How does society determine addiction? There's no clear test. And today's recreational user could easily be tomorrow's addict. The line blurs."

"Should drug use be legal? What about prostitution, or gambling? Does the government have the right to enforce laws not predicated on direct harm?"
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Re: Talk to Alex - JST05

[personal profile] bitten_notshy 2010-02-02 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Jack came up to Alex after class, hands stuffed in his pockets. "Miss Cabot?" he began. "Did I hear that you take on student interns in your legal practice?"

He didn't need a job, per se, but ... he was interested in this field, and he needed something to do on the long weekends when he couldn't be with Sebastien.

[OOC: Let me know if this is not OK to handwave him knowing, and I shall edit!]
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Re: Talk to Alex - JST05

[personal profile] bitten_notshy 2010-02-03 12:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Jack nodded. "I always thought I would be a detective," he explained. "But Dinah spoke to me about what they means in this time, and I think I might enjoy your side of the fence more. I'd like to give it a try, at least."
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Re: Talk to Alex - JST05

[personal profile] bitten_notshy 2010-02-03 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"I honestly don't know what I want," Jack said truthfully. "So I suppose you'd have a blank slate to work with. What days do you have open?"
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Re: Talk to Alex - JST05

[personal profile] bitten_notshy 2010-02-04 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Jack thought about it. He'd made a point of keeping his weekends free, but -

"Sunday," he decided. "I sometimes go home on weekends, but I can be back in time to open the office. Is this Sunday all right to start?"