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screwyoumarvel ([personal profile] screwyoumarvel) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2007-07-18 12:36 am
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Patriotism Yay!: Period 2, Week 2

Once again, Steve was waiting for his students in a clearing. "Last week, I asked you what your personal definition of patriotism was, and your answers were very interesting, and for the most part along the same lines, which just goes to show that patriotism is a universal value. And one of you made a comment that I thought was worth following up on.

"Miss Carnahan raised an interesting point about how sometimes your loyalties can be split between two nations. That's perfectly okay, although you may find yourself in a bit of a personal crisis if those two nations have a difference of opinion. And it's perfectly possible for your loyalties to be split in a way other than between nations: Robert E. Lee was asked to take command of the Union Army at the outbreak of the American Civil War. For those of you not versed on American history, General Lee was from Virginia, which was on the the other side of the conflict, and he chose to lead the Confederate army instead. So, here are my questions for today. Under what circumstances can you see loyalties being split, and in a case where you're forced to choose, what do you think would be the right thing for a patriot to do?"

Re: Answer the Questions

[identity profile] stocksgrrl.livejournal.com 2007-07-18 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
"But because you're a disenfranchised minority, that's all the more reason to pick!" Turtle, who felt like she wasn't that shielded from that sort of thing just from being upper middle crust, thank you very much. She knew that her family had been ostracized from her mother's side because of who her father was, even if they didn't talk about that. "Otherwise, you, and other people like you, will always be disenfranchised. You have to fight to get what you believe in; no one got anywhere unless they worked hard for it."

Re: Answer the Questions

[identity profile] bookyeve.livejournal.com 2007-07-18 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Evie blinked her eyes, hard, and bit her lip. "I-I have to think about this. Quite a bit. I don't believe in 'my country, right or wrong'. But I don't..." Was it more practical, if less honest, to support these things as an Englishwoman? Or as someone of mixed race? Jonathan never admitted to being Egyptian if he could help it. Far, far too difficult for him. And yet that hurt her mother. "I don't know how. Do you understand? In an ideal world I would have the vote, and Egypt would be independent and also allow women to vote, and no one would care about my background in either place. But they do."

Re: Answer the Questions

[identity profile] stocksgrrl.livejournal.com 2007-07-18 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
"Right," Turtle nodded. "And that's what it'll stay with an attitude like that. An ideal."

Re: Answer the Questions

[identity profile] bookyeve.livejournal.com 2007-07-18 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Evie glared at Turtle, and shook her finger, spluttering, trying to find words, then gave up, folding her arms and fuming. "Ooooo."