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endsthegame ([personal profile] endsthegame) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2021-08-13 04:27 pm

Practical Philosophy, Friday

"There aren't many philosophical thought experiments that get as much airtime as Plato's allegory of the cave," Ender said. "For the few of you who might not have been exposed to it - Plato ascribes to his mentor Socrates a story about a group of prisoners, chained to the wall in a cave. They can only see the wall in front of them. Behind them, there's a fire, and behind the fire, men and women pass by bearing figurines. But because of where they're trapped, the prisoners can only see the shadows. The shadows, then, are reality to them - only by leaving the cave would they be able to discover the truth behind the shadows, the perfect forms."

He sat back.

"Plato believed strongly in this theory of Forms," he said. "Everything we known and see, every object and every idea, is but an imperfect shadow of something greater, something pure and abstract."

He took a swig of water. "We won't be too concerned with Plato today, or at least his ideas," he said, "but we can use some of his vocabulary to talk about the subjectivity of our experiences and our worldviews. After all, Plato wanted to believe badly in some perfect world above our own - some solid truth that could not be seen in any other light."

His mouth curved. "Nothing like Wednesday," he said dryly. "Because even when we speak the truth, we still speak our reflection of the truth, not the reality of it.

"We live in a world where most are predisposed to investing in some kind of doctrine. Whether it be the religion you believe in or the morals you hold dear, there are some things we don't seek to question. Most of us like to believe that there really are perfect Forms of some capacity - abstracts that, when achieved, would bring perfection."

His mouth curved. "Of course, I don't need to tell you that isn't necessarily true," he said. "But there's a difference between knowing that and practicing it. So today, I'd like to pose you all a challenge - what's something you believe in that you've never really thought to question? Maybe it's something that informs the way you look at the people around you. Maybe it's something about how you feel about yourself. You don't need to denounce whatever it is that this is - I just ask you to find something you've never felt needed questioning."
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Sakaki
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[personal profile] kawaii_complex 2021-08-13 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Sakaki, who had admittedly been pretty quiet in this class because Fridays usually suuuucked, as she was quiet for a lot of things, nibbled on her sandwich a little thoughtfully, her cheeks going a bit red as she considered the questions and various answers to them until she came up with something that she'd never really questioned before.

It was sort of hard, really, because she'd never really questioned it before.

"I...I guess," she ventured timidly, when it was her turn to go, "I've never questioned that animals all animals are good," which was particularly interesting, considering her experiences with cats, "and that I'd like to one day care for them."

Even the not-as-cute ones.
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[personal profile] kawaii_complex 2021-08-13 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
There was a long pause.

How much time did they have?

"I don't get along very well with cats," Sakaki finally said. And thus became eligible for Biggest Understatement of the Century award.
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Re: Talk.

[personal profile] kawaii_complex 2021-08-13 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Sakaki took a moment to think about it, and, despite all the bites, chomps, scrapes and scratches, couldn't for the life of her fathom that any of it was done with truly malicious intent.

She nodded, with a soft, affirming hum.

"At least," she amended, "I don't think they can help it."

It was all too consistent. The issue was clearly with herself and not the cats, and how could she hold that against them?
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Re: Talk.

[personal profile] kawaii_complex 2021-08-13 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
"I...don't know," Sakaki admitted, looking down at her hands and the half-nibbled sandwich in them. Maybe she'd save the rest of it, see if any of the cats at the shelter wanted to share, as a gesture of goodwill.

She blinked at it for a moment, and then looked up at him.

"But how will I find out if I just give up?"