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Music Appreciation | Monday, period 1

Hannibal nodded at the students once they were settled in. "Last week, in the course of discussing home, we mentioned war a few times. There are any number of songs about war, its effects, its aftereffects, and the feelings it elicits. Today we'll be discussing those songs."

//It's fascinating, in its way,// Jono added, from his usual spot leaning against the desk at the front of the room. //There's such a broad cross-section of approaches to music about war, it's impossible to cover every point of view. The songs of each war are very much defined by the attitudes of the people living through those wars at the time. The bitter, the frightened, the adventure seekers looking for glory and those who discovered the hard way that 'glory' is absolutely the wrong word for it. The songs of the victors, the lament of the defeated. The cheerful sarcasm of those who are in over their heads and who refuse to let that fact drag them down... It's ugly. War is so bloody ugly. But the music that comes out of it is some of the most raw expression of human emotion you'll ever hear.//

"Music can also serve a purpose in war," Hannibal continued. "I will start today with a selection of drums from Japan. Drums there, as in many cultures, were used to set a pace for marching to war, to carry orders long distances, and to inspire the troops. This particular piece comes to us by way of a Chinese film showing the horrors the Japanese troops of the time perpetrated on the city of Nanjing, but offers some context to the music."

Once that had played, he continued. "Of course, there is also the much more romanticized and removed view of war presented in operas such as Bellini's Norma. In this aria, Norma calls her people to war so she may have revenge on an unfaithful lover. It shows a much less visceral facet of music."

He queued up the next song. "From the other side, we have Benjamin Britten's War Requiem. It was commissioned for the consecration of the new Coventry Cathedral, after the prior cathedral was destroyed in the bombing of World War II. In response, Britten composed a requiem - the traditional Latin mass for the dead - interspersed with poems written during World War I, creating a poignant pacifist piece. We will listen to his "Dies Irae", or "Day of Wrath", from that piece."

Hannibal smiled, "I would be remiss not to include The Year 1812, festival overture in E♭ major, Opus 49. Or as some of you may know it, the 1812 Overture. The Russian composer Tchaikovsky wrote it to commemorate Russia's successful defense against Napoleon. It includes the - somewhat anachronistic - French national anthem, a notable war song in its own right, and was scored for woodwinds, strings, percussion, brass, and an entire battery of cannons. It is not often performed with full orchestration indoors, for obvious reasons," he added, amused.

"Not all war songs are about war, so much as used during it. For propaganda, morale, or simply distraction. During World War I, a popular French song was "Quand Madelon", a story about a young woman 'entertaining' the troops, although it's actually remarkably tasteful for the genre."

After that, he shook his head. "Still, lest you think that all of the more modern songs are critical of war, I offer you "Heureux Piou-piou", in which a soldier from World War I sings of the glories of war and how much he enjoys soldiering."

Jono gave his head a shake when his turn rolled around. This was a topic that hit a little close to home.

//I tried to come up with a selection of songs that gave a pretty decent representation of the past century of wars on Earth myself,// he noted, //but there's going to be a definite slant toward the anti-war protest songs here, as well. A few of them, such as Eric Bogle's The Band Played Waltzing Matilda and Bruce Robison's Travellin' Soldier - popularized by the Dixie Chicks well after the song was written - offer a retrospective look at the aftermath of wars that happened decades before. The first looks at the slaughter of Australian troops at Gallipoli during the first World War, and the second shows the loss of a young life in the Vietnam war through the eyes of the girl back home who loved him. U2 sang about the horror of the Bloody Sunday massacre, where British Troops shot at unarmed civilian protesters in Northern Ireland, exacerbating the Irish anti-British sentiment and raising support for the IRA. They actually cut out verses from the song before releasing it for fear of their own safety.//

Jono's voice had gone curiously flat during that last part. He'd seen the results of that particular conflict first-hand. It wasn't the sort of thing you forgot easily.

//They've all got a very different feeling from the more tongue-in-cheek songs written for the soldiers themselves during the war,// he said, dropping that weird neutrality from his tone. //Songs that were meant to keep the spirits up while acknowledging just how in over their heads they were, such as Arthur Aksey's Kiss me Goodnight, Sergeant Major from the Second World War, or Irving Berlin's Oh, How I Hate To Get Up In The Morning from the First, for example. Songs that took a comedic angle on the life of a soldier were something of a coping mechanism when things were the darkest.//

Jono's own soldiers had come up with no small number of songs meant to keep their spirits up during Glacia's war, for that matter. No, he wasn't sharing any of them in class today. For one, that would involve singing. For another, he was trying to actively avoid any music that might put him back in those moments, today.

//Some songs resonated on a more personal note with anybody who listened to them. Lili Marleen was so popular in Germany that Lale Andersen had them translated and released the song in English as well. It was massive hit on both sides of the same war, singing a story that people could relate to no matter where they called home, and was covered by numerous artists. Allied troops even took the tune and repurposed the lyrics into a bitter number about how their contributions to the war in Italy were being talked down on, and they were being referred to as D-Day Dodgers.//

So help him god, he wasn't done yet.

//Vietnam saw a different attitude toward songs about war, with songs like Eve of Destruction by Barry McGuire, War by Edwin Starr, and Fortunate Son by CCR singing out against it outright. This prompted songs that embraced a patriotic fervor in turn, such as Staff Sergeant Barry Sadler's Ballad of the Green Berets, which sounds, interestingly enough, as though it would be more at home with the songs of the Second World War instead.//

It had been a long and bloody century. Jono had left so many things out. And he was still going. He ran a hand through his hair and then looked tiredly up at the ceiling before pressing on again.

Hannibal shifted a little to bump his elbow against Jono and send him a feeling of strength and support. It earned him a little sideways glance and a nod of thanks before Jono pressed on.

//I'm going to wrap this up on a few songs that have come out of more recent times still, prompted by the state of the world and the Iraq War. Jack Johnson's Crying Shame is another song in protest of war, though it's less angry than many others and more just... tired. Avenged Sevenfold wrote their song, M.I.A., to try to give some perspective of the toll that war takes on the psyche of a soldier, portraying the singer looking back on the horrors that he's seen and perpetrated himself. Metallica's One is about a soldier who was left stuck inside his own head after the injuries he sustained at war left him blind, deaf, and unable to move. They spliced scenes from the film meta for Johnny Got His Gun into their music video to better hit their point home, and ultimately bought the rights to the film in order to continue to show their video. And Muse's most recent album, Drones, is a concept album that follows the main character's journey, having his humanity and identity basically stripped away as he was indoctrinated into the military to become a killing machine in Psycho, leading to his eventual defection and victory over his enemies.//

Jono was making a mental note, next time they had a class about war, he was bringing the kitten.

Hannibal had not brought a cat, but he had brought food and drink? There was coffee and tea, and a number of pastries that he waved the students at. He'd taken a small tart and a cup of coffee for himself to share with Jono. "So, how do you feel these songs reflect or are affected by the wars of their times? What songs about war do you know, and which do you relate to best? What, in your opinion, should a song on the topic involve?"
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[personal profile] furnaceface 2016-05-23 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
//Musicals absolutely count,// Jono replied, nodding, //though I'll admit I'm not as well-versed in most of those as I could be, I know there are a good many that touch on war and the effect it has on those who are involved in it. Even something that, musically speaking, seems as light at a glance as meta for Cabaret is, when you look at the way the narrative ties the songs together, actually about the rise of the Nazis in Berlin before World War II. Musicals are an interesting medium for telling those stories. They help to put perspective to the stories in a less figurative narrative than many songs on their own do.//
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[personal profile] intotheout 2016-05-23 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Cabaret was one of the musicals Tip's mom had refused to listen to with her, and listening to musicals was mostly only fun with her mom. So she didn't know it very well. But she nodded anyway, taking Jono's word for it, theme-wise. "Nazis show up in musicals pretty often, don't they?" she asked. "They're all over meta for Sound of Music, too. They're the bad guys everyone can agree really were bad guys, so we can use them however we want."
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[personal profile] furnaceface 2016-05-23 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
//That's a part of it,// Jono agreed. //Another part of it is the need for people to express what's relevant to them at the time. Looking at the history of Broadway, for example, there were a lot of shows that came out with a focus on the Nazi regime leading up to and during the war itself. They were telling stories people needed to see, and theatre was still very relevant. People could afford to see it again, since the Great Depression was effectively over, and film was gaining popularity but it wasn't quite the entertainment powerhouse it is today. For years after the war ended, the people who were going to see those musicals still remembered the Nazi regime as the villains, and still had a personal interest in seeing those stories told.//

He shrugged.

//I can't be sure without doing some more digging, of course, but I'd wager that there are more new musicals coming out these days based on Disney movies than there are new ones about Nazis.//
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[personal profile] intotheout 2016-05-23 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Tip wondered how many musicals in her world were being made about the Boov. She knew they were making one based on Dan Landry's book, but that was so completely fictional she didn't really think it counted. She'd mostly avoided looking, though, for J.Lo's sake.

"I guess the war in the Middle East didn't inspire people the way World War II or Vietnam did," she said instead. That conflict had been over in her world for years. One advantage of getting invaded by an alien species: humans stopped beating on each other. At least for a little while.
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[personal profile] furnaceface 2016-05-23 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
//Not in the same manner, no,// Jono replied, //though there have been plenty of films about it, and songs. I barely scratched the surface during my lecture, though I imagine I could've done an entire class just talking about music that came out in the past fifteen years on the topic, easily. Media itself evolves, though, and the storytelling moves from one place to the next, depending on what brings in money. There are fewer shows coming out on Broadway in general than there were around the second World War, and they haven't been around long enough yet to see which will survive the test of time the same way Sound of Music or Cabaret did.//
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[personal profile] intotheout 2016-05-23 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Tip nodded. "So World War II did more musicals," she said. "And Vietnam got more folk songs and stuff."
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[personal profile] furnaceface 2016-05-23 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
//And a few films,// Jono agreed. //Vietnam also dragged on for much longer, and was far less romanticized in the first place, so the idea of going off to fight in a war for the glory of it was largely absent. Instead there was a generation of people who had to flee home completely in order to avoid being drafted into a fight they didn't feel was theirs to begin with. After the other two bloody massive wars the world had seen in the fifty years before, nobody was going to buy the whole 'for glory' story that had been fed to their parents and grandparents. The public's approach to the war in general was quite different, a generation of hippies and draft dodgers, instead of idealistic soldiers who were in for a rude awakening.//
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[personal profile] intotheout 2016-05-23 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
"Wasn't it also like the first war shown on TV? Like the actual war footage itself. Now you can see stuff like that on TV all the time, but at the time it was the first time civilians really saw what was going on on the other side of the world. Like immediately. They weren't . . . jaded by it all, yet."
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[personal profile] furnaceface 2016-05-23 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
//Media did play a huge role in it,// Jono agreed, nodding. //Telecommunication had come a long way since the wars that came before, by the time Vietnam rolled around. People found themselves being able to follow what was going on around the world without the limits of newspapers and radio broadcasts, could see it for the first time with their own eyes. Coverage was still heavily monitored, and it didn't really blow up in the news until the mid-1960s, but it was right there. That was new. Terrifying. And the way wars were fought had changed a lot in such a short period of time, as well.//
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[personal profile] intotheout 2016-05-23 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Tip decided against asking if Jono had actually seen any of it. She didn't think he was that old. "Whereas now we've got 24 hour news cycles, and everyone has their own camera connected to the internet. You know, when that infrastructure hasn't been systematically erased by invaders."

At a certain point, the TVs had stopped broadcasting anything about the Boov invasion. And then they stopped broadcasting anything at all. Which was good, actually. It kicked Tip back out of her shock-induced stupor and back into action.

But it also meant that she didn't get the memo about the Human Preserves moving from Florida to Arizona until after she'd been chased down by Boov and nearly eaten by a lion. And that it was that much harder to find her mom once she made it all the way out there.
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[personal profile] furnaceface 2016-05-23 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Jono would've appreciated that discretion, Tip. The war had ended a few years before he was born. And he was British.

//And even if the infrastructure has been torn apart, people will find a way to get the word out. We're in an information age, and there's little that people reach for before the internet to find out what's going on if they've caught wind of something big. In come cases, it's the only way people find out about things, now.//
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[personal profile] intotheout 2016-05-23 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
"The internet does break, though," Tip said. "My world was reduced to CB radios and hand-copied newsletters about celebrities for awhile."

CB radio people were weird. But Tip knew better than to mock people for being devoted to old school technology, these days.
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[personal profile] furnaceface 2016-05-23 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
//And I've had to get by in worlds without even radio,// Jono allowed. //At least telepathy was an option in most of the cases I've found myself in. I know that's a luxury that most worlds find themselves without.//
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[personal profile] intotheout 2016-05-23 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
"It would have been super useful in my world, definitely," Tip said. She might have found her mom a lot faster, for instance. "Of course, the Boov probably would have had better telepathy that could make your brain explode or something."
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[personal profile] furnaceface 2016-05-23 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Jono... was not going to let himself dwell on that one, considering there was no way Tip could possibly have known that he'd lost a good portion of his Landen soldiers to the telepathic screaming of the dying Blood literally turning their brains to ash.

He did shudder a little, though.

//Where there's a tool, there'll always be somebody with a bigger, better, more terrifying one,// he sighed. //In times of war, sometimes the deciding factor is just a matter of who decides to use that tool first.//

He suspected they could have ended the Glacian war months earlier with guns and explosives. Instead, they got hit unexpectedly with chemical warfare.

War.
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[personal profile] intotheout 2016-05-23 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Tip noticed the shudder and made a mental note not to casually speculate about telepathy around him again. Somethings you didn't need to know the reasons behind.

"It's all just nasty, isn't it. Makes it hard to believe there are people in the universe who actually enjoy war."
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[personal profile] furnaceface 2016-05-23 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
//And I hope I never understand those people,// Jono murmured with a shake of his head. //A good fight is one thing. War, on the other hand...//

What was there to enjoy?