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Practical Squiring, Thursday

"A knight is more than just a soldier when all is said and done. Anyone can have a weapon given to them and told to kill to defend their lord, but a knight is supposed to be better than that."

Emphasis on the 'supposed to be' there. Today they met in a regular classroom, devoid of barrels, or armor, or swords. Jaime granted the students a slightly brittle smile as he kept on. "To become a knight, you are made to swear vows before your gods--who or whatever they may be--vows that demand you protect the defenseless, defend the weak, obey your king and liege lord... All sorts of vows."

Perhaps it was Brienne's fault that he was even bringing this up for class. Time spent with that beast of a woman had forced him to remember when he'd actually believed in honor and glory.

"But what do you do when they conflict?" Jaime asked. "You will be an oath breaker regardless of your choice. So where does your honor lay? To defend the weak or to obey your master?"
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[identity profile] givehimahand.livejournal.com 2012-08-09 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
That got a laugh out of Jsime st least. "What I meant was that kings are not some sort of rare beast. There are good kings and bad ones. You have little choice in what you are subjected to save for rebellion. But a man does not rule without allies or a willingness to kill to preserve their throne."
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[personal profile] nottrivial 2012-08-09 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Such were the dangers of using metaphors around Alec, Jaime. His poor literal brain just couldn't handle it.

He furrowed his brow in thought for a moment. "I thought we were talking about -- being asked to choose between compliance and protecting innocents," he said slowly. "I understand alliances and killing your enemies, but if it came to a choice between those two, the innocent people would be my first priority."

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[identity profile] givehimahand.livejournal.com 2012-08-09 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Jaime was just... going to assume there had been a blow to the head in there somewhere. "Even if it would be your certain death at the hands of whose still loyal to the king?"
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[personal profile] nottrivial 2012-08-09 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Alec felt like Jaime could have mentioned that earlier in the hypothetical, but didn't think he would get very far by going into that.

"Well, obviously I'd prefer to avoid that," he said, trying not to sound annoyed. "But the knightly oaths to protect the innocent that you described are similar to ones I've taken already, and I wouldn't break them for any reason."

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[identity profile] givehimahand.livejournal.com 2012-08-09 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Jaime just smiled at that. "How nice for you. Have you seen battle then?"
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[personal profile] nottrivial 2012-08-09 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Alec's East-River-blue eyes flashed briefly. "Yes."

Sorry, Jaime, were you looking for elaboration?
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[personal profile] nottrivial 2012-08-09 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
"Quite a few," Alec confirmed. "As well as some less so, but swayed in favor of the opponents."

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[identity profile] givehimahand.livejournal.com 2012-08-09 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Jaime nodded, stifling his amusement. "It sounds exciting."
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[personal profile] nottrivial 2012-08-09 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Alec eyed him, feeling like he was being teased here. Because yes. "What?"
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