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US Government (Friday, February 3, 4th period)

"As promised, today we have our first test of the semester. I'm sure you're all thrilled. If you're not, well, fake it."

Josh stood up from his desk and passed out test papers.

1. What year was the Magna Carta signed? Why is it important in terms of the American government?
2. What three things did John Locke's believe we have a right to? Which one did Jefferson change?
3. The Articles of Confederation didn't work for a number of reasons. Give me an example of one of them.
4. The Preamble to the Constitution. Go ahead. Sing. But you better write it down, too.
5. Bill of Rights. There are ten amendments. Give me one of them.
Extra credit: Stupider thing to put in a State of the Union address: the banning of human-animal hybrids or cars that run on hydrogen?

"Question or concerns that aren't 'what's the answer to number 4?' Ask away."

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[identity profile] carter-i-am.livejournal.com 2006-02-03 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Sam Carter
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Angela Chase

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Lee Adama

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Isabel signed in

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[identity profile] oatmanspatient.livejournal.com 2006-02-03 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Clarence

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[identity profile] oatmanspatient.livejournal.com 2006-02-03 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Martin Blank

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Alphonse Elric

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John Crichton

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Peter Parker

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[identity profile] kawalsky.livejournal.com 2006-02-04 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Charlie Kawalsky

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Lindsey McDonald.

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Elizabeth Weir

[ooc: Sorry for being so late. Weekend was hectic and there was no chance to steal borrow Bryan's laptop!]

Re: Take the test (February 3, US Government)

[identity profile] leeadama.livejournal.com 2006-02-03 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Lee scribbles down his answers.

1. The Magna Carta was signed by King John in 1215. This document is very important in terms of American government in that it benchmarked the idea that the ruler (king, president, etc) is not above the law in any way. Whereas there IS a grey area and people in such lofty positions are going to be protected regardless of this ruling, it does keep them from being seen as gods, untouchable and seperated from the rest of us.

2. John Locke believed we had right to property and Jefferson changed it to "pursuit of happiness" due to the slavery issue and it sounds damned pretty.

3. A reason for the failure of the Articles of Confederation is that it reduced power from a centralized government.

4. We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

5. An amendment to the Bill of Rights is the right to keep and bear arms. *flexes*

EC: Human/Cylonanimal hybirds. For the sake of all things holy and chrome-plated, what the frak is that about?

Re: Take the test (February 3, US Government)

[identity profile] carter-i-am.livejournal.com 2006-02-03 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
1. 1215. Because it codified the ideal that no president man was above the law. No mention was made about women, though, so the jury may still be out on that.

2. Life, Liberty, and Property. Jefferson changed Property to Pursuit of Happiness thereby screwing up a perfectly good philosophical proposal with idealistic rhetoric in a tradition politicians would emulate for more than two centuries. Maybe it's just that he had enough property and didn't feel the need to seek more.

3. Congress was unable to tax the states, or the people, and therefore had no financial resources of its own.


And now, a brief musical interlude.... (http://www.school-house-rock.com/Prea.html) Sam couldn't help humming as she wrote the answer to the next question.

4.We the People
In order to form a more perfect union,
Establish justice, insure domestic tranquility,
Provide for the common defense,
Promote the general welfare and
Secure the blessings of liberty
To ourselves and our posterity
Do ordain and establish this Constitution
for the United States of America.

5. First Amendment: Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion (both from a governmentally established religion and being allowed the free exercise of your religion as long as it's one that isn't too scary to the Judge presiding over the case , Freedom of the Press, Freedom of Assembly, and the ability to petition the government with a redress of grievances.

Extra Credit: Clearly, cars that run on Hydrogen. Putting a ton of metal around the hydrogen won't suddenly make a car be less like the Hindenburg. Also, human/animal hybrids could be kind of cool. We could have wings or armor, which would just be nifty even if it would blow apart Darwinism and send science back to the Stone Age..

Re: Take the test (February 3, US Government)

[identity profile] izzyalienqueen.livejournal.com 2006-02-03 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
1. 1215 - Codified that no man, not even a king, is above the law

2. Life, Liberty and property. Jefferson changed property to the “pursuit of happiness” to avoid issues associated with slavery.

3. Congress under the Articles of Confederation was denied the power of taxation and thus they had to request money from the individual states. That money was often withheld leaving Congress with a bit of a funding problem.

4. We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Isabel might have hummed as she wrote this.

5. 1st Amendment – Freedom of Speech - Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Extra credit: Both ideas are pretty damn stupid considering that with the current technology both ideas are only that, ideas. But considering the man is incapable of coherent speech, it would be way to much to ask for him to apply logical thought. And in yet another example of his stupidity, all the talk about reducing our dependence on foreign oil? Totally bogus (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/2/12653/86247).

Re: Take the test (February 3, US Government)

[identity profile] oatmanspatient.livejournal.com 2006-02-03 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Martin Blank's Test

1. 1215. It recognized that no one person should have absolute power when it came to governing the people.
2. Life, Liberty and Property. Jefferson changed "Property" to the "Pursuit of happiness" as
3. Lack of centralized power to govern the individual states.
4. We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
5. Freedom of Speech.

Extra credit: human-animal hybrids. Clearly the President has been watching too many monster movies.

Re: Take the test (February 3, US Government)

[identity profile] oatmanspatient.livejournal.com 2006-02-03 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
(Somehow Marty had the time to make out a second test for...)
Clarence

1. What year was the Magna Carta signed? Why is it important in terms of the American government?
2. Life, liberty and the ability to eat pork products. Jefferson change it to the pursuit of happiness because he thought the American public might undercook the pork and get trichinosis
3. The name wasn't cool enough. Who wants to be part of a article? Or a confederation? It totally sucks.
4. War! Huh! Good God Y'all! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing! SAY IT AGAIN!
5. The right to stuff cold cuts down your pants without fear of religious persecution
Extra credit: President Bush should not be judged by his comments because he's a numbnut.
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Re: Take the test (February 3, US Government)

[personal profile] chasingangela 2006-02-03 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
1. 1215. It is the first document to say that no ruler should have absolute power.

2. Life, liberty and property. Jefferson opted for "pursuit of happiness" over "property," both because we had slavery and because it sounded better.

3. There was little centralized power, so the states disagreed among themselves too much.

4. We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

5. Fifth amendment -- right to due process and against self-incrimination, even for accused criminals.

EC: The chimera thing. It's bizarre, but it is so completely not a major priority. I guess he's hoping the religious nuts will freak out about it and vote for Republicans in November.

Re: Take the test (February 3, US Government)

[identity profile] whitedeathpod.livejournal.com 2006-02-03 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
John starts his test.

1. The Manga Carta was signed in 1215. By signing this document, it put forth that no one man was above the law.

2. John Locke believed we were entitled to life, liberty and property. Thomas Jefferson changed property to the pursuit of happiness.

3. One reason the Articles of Confederation failed was the lack of centralized government.

4. We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Isabel might have hummed as she wrote this.

5. Seventh Amendment - Right to a jury trial.

EC. Human-animal hybrids. If we lived it Star Trek verse, that would be valid but Kirk's retired and we ain't on the Enterprise.

Re: Take the test (February 3, US Government)

[identity profile] peter--parker.livejournal.com 2006-02-04 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
1. The Magna Carta was signed in 1215 and it codified that no man is above the law, not even a king.

2. John Locke believed in a right to life, liberty, and property. Jeffeson changed "property" to "pursuit of happiness."

3. According to the Articles of Confederation, all decisions had to be agreed upon unanimously by all states. Because of this, it was damn near impossible to get anything done.

4. We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

5. First Amendment: The right to free speech, press, religion, and a couple other things.

Extra credit: Cars that run on hydrogen. That's just insane. And combining human and animal genetics isn't always a bad thing, omg.

Re: Take the test (February 3, US Government)

[identity profile] kawalsky.livejournal.com 2006-02-04 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
1. 1215. It made sure that no one was above the law so that the law would actually have some pull. It wouldn't work if someone was above it who could do whatever they wanted.
2. Life, liberty and property. Jefferson changed the last one to pursuit of happiness because it sounded better and was more sketchy on the details so more people could get it.
3. Pass.
4. We the People, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
5. 3rd one - the right to not have to board soldiers during a time of peace.

Extra credit: Human-animal hybrids. No one had probably thought about it before, but now everyone has and they'll probably try harder now that they know it'll annoy the President.

Re: Take the test (February 3, US Government)

[identity profile] wannabelawyer.livejournal.com 2006-02-04 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
1) 1215. It set a precedent for nobody, not even heads of government, being above the law.

2)Life, liberty, and property. Jefferson changed property to "pursuit of happiness."

3) No centralized government

4)We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish justice, insure...something, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty, to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution
for the United States of America.

5) The Fifth - Right to due process, and protection against self-incrimination.

Extra Credit: I'd say human-animal hybrids, except I go to school HERE and there probably are some running around I don't know about. So I'll go with hydrogen cars.

Re: Take the test (February 3, US Government)

[identity profile] notcalledlizzie.livejournal.com 2006-02-06 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
1. The Magna Carta, which is Latin for "Great Charter," was signed in 1215 by King John of England. It was designed to limit the power of the English monarchy. The two most important clauses of Magna Carta's sixty three are among the legal clauses. Clause 40 promises, "To no one will we sell, to no one will we deny or delay right or justice." This clause establishes the principle of equal access to the courts for all citizens without exorbitant fees. In clause 39, the king promises, "No free man shall be taken or imprisoned or disseised or outlawed or exiled or in any way destroyed, nor will we go or send against him, except by the lawful judgment of his peers or by the law of the land." This clause establishes that the king would follow legal procedure before he punished someone. These protections were cited in many founding documents of the American colonies and were incorporated into the Constitution. Furthermore, many modern rights have been based on the Magna Carta that were unknown in the 13th century, including habeas corpus and the principle of no taxation without representation.

2. Locke claimed that because of the "law of nature," that we have a right to life, liberty and property. Jefferson changed property to persuit of happiness in the Declaration, possibly because according to Jefferson and the political philosophers of his day, property was everything from your name and reputation to your real estate. Looking at it like that, your pursuit of happiness is your property.

3. Congress could make decisions, but they had no power to enforce them, because of a lack of centralized government. As such, when they requested things from the states, such as taxation, the states didn't tend to comply fully with the requests.

4. We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

5. Eighth Amendment "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"

Extra credit: Both ideas were so mind numbingly stupid to be referenced by a president at this point in time, much less one delivering a SotU, that it's hard to decide. But human-animal hybrids? I would suggest that he shouldn't talk about things that he doesn't understand. But then what would he be able to talk about?

Re: OOC

[identity profile] peter--parker.livejournal.com 2006-02-03 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
*chanting*

I will not ask "What are the answers to every question but number four?" I will not ask "What are the answers to every question but number four?" I will not ask "What are the answers to every question but number four?" Etc.