http://glasses-justice.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] glasses-justice.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2011-01-20 11:40 am
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Nation Building and the Origin of Government, Period 5, Class 3, Thursday, 1-20

Today, class was meeting in the Danger Shop, which was only because Alex's students might want to speak with individuals themselves. and so I can play with NPC icons

"Last night was a busy one, in your country," she said, once everyone had filed in to a replica of their usual classroom. "You asked the patrol guards to keep their eyes open for any suspicious or questionable activity, and they found a fair amount. The official tally is on the blackboard."

The tally, on the blackboard, was in no particular order and read as follows:

• Two men engaged in a barfight; both were injured, one seriously.
• An alleged would-be burglar entered the home of a resident. The resident fired a gun at the presumed burglar. The presumed burglar is in critical condition.
• A homeless man stole several food items, at gunpoint, from a grocery store.
• A woman discovered her husband in bed with another woman, and stabbed him.
• A CEO hired an assassin to kill the CEO of the company's chief competitor; the hitman succeeded.
• Two adult siblings engaged in what both claim was consensual sex.
• A woman has been printing and mailing out a newsletter which insults you and spreads lies about your regime.
• A man gave a prostitute money in exchange for sexual favors.


"The patrol guards placed these people in separate cells. This is where the real fun starts. None of what happened last night was, technically speaking, illegal. We haven't instituted a formal rule of law yet. That doesn't mean we can't punish any or all of those people, if we see fit to do so, but it does remind us that we might want to put together some laws, and announce them to the populace at large. The populace won't automatically follow all of your rules, but it's nice for them to at least know what's against the law, and what punishment is assigned each crime.

"Leaving aside the issue of retroactive legality -- this is a thought experiment, so we can do that easily enough -- which of these people broke the law last night? What mitigating circumstances do we want to take into effect, when issuing punishment? And what exactly are we going to punish our citizens with? Death? Exile? Imprisonment?"

Alex nodded to the doorway on the side of the room. "We can summon anyone you like, for you to speak with, in case you'd like to get a clearer view of the facts of these cases. Next week, we're going to talk big picture, putting down rules and coming up with guidelines, instituting a police presence and determining the fate of criminals. This week? We're going to handle just these cases. Who broke the law, what law should we have in place to guard against that behavior, and what punishment should the guilty receive?"

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[identity profile] thinkbetterofme.livejournal.com 2011-01-20 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Faramir

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[identity profile] whateverknight.livejournal.com 2011-01-20 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Squall Leonhart

Re: Sign In - NAT03

[identity profile] daventryprince.livejournal.com 2011-01-20 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Prince Alexander of Daventry
weetuskenraider: (Nekkid ZOMG)

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[personal profile] weetuskenraider 2011-01-20 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Tahiri Veila (depending on who you ask)

Re: Activity - Interrogations - NAT03

[identity profile] whateverknight.livejournal.com 2011-01-20 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Squall considered the list of crimes.

"The two people in the bar fight," he decided. "Who started it?"

Re: Discussion - Crime and Laws - NAT03

[identity profile] whateverknight.livejournal.com 2011-01-20 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
"The guy and his prostitute, and the siblings can all go free" Squall decided. "They're not hurting anyone. If someone thinks it's wrong, they can put laws in place later, but there are more important matters to deal with." He shrugged.

"The dissident and the homeless robber can also go free, but I want to talk to them first. I don't know if they should be considered criminals or not, and I don't care. They're engaging in understandable but counterproductive behavior, and I want them to stop, but punishing them wouldn't help anything."

"The murderers, and the person who shot the burglar, need to be dealt with. That sort of thing can't be allowed."
wwiii: (Breaking Free)

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[personal profile] wwiii 2011-01-20 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Warren Worthington III

... It's vandalism, sort of?

Re: During the Lecture - NAT03

[identity profile] daventryprince.livejournal.com 2011-01-20 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Alexander was jotting down the list on the board, so that he could better get an idea of what he thought about each of the scenarios before really making any decisions. He frowned down at the paper as he considered them, realizing that, though it would always make him a bit nervous to do so, upholding certain laws and standards was just something he'd have to do...

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[identity profile] kestrelswolf.livejournal.com 2011-01-20 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Image

Re: Activity - Interrogations - NAT03

[identity profile] whateverknight.livejournal.com 2011-01-20 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
"What sort of insult?" Squall asked. "Bring them out. The nuances are important here."

Re: Discussion - Punishment - NAT03

[identity profile] whateverknight.livejournal.com 2011-01-20 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
"Execute the murderers," Squall decided. "The person who shot the robber, too. Now isn't the time to be lenient, with the country in chaos."
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[personal profile] glacial_queen 2011-01-20 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Karla
glacial_queen: (Class-Pondering Lecture)

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[personal profile] glacial_queen 2011-01-20 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, Darkness. This was going to bring up the 'My people have no laws against murder' explanation which then almost inevitably led to the 'but as Queen I can exact payment for the lives taken' explanation.

Maybe she could hide under the desk instead.
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[personal profile] glacial_queen 2011-01-20 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Karla was here--she wouldn't have missed this class even if she hadn't been making it a point to go to every class she could.

As long this didn't turn into a fight with people halfway through, she'd even participate!

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