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Concepts of Justice and The Law [Period 4, Class #11, Mar 23]

This week, Alex was carrying a large styrofoam cup that she had filled with hot water. She was dunking a teabag into the cup as she talked, the string looped around two of her fingers so it wouldn't slip off. Tea-on-the-go.

"Afternoon," she said, nodding to her students. "First of all, I apologize that I wasn't as detached from the subject matter as I'd like to have been, last week. I try to present gray areas so that we can discuss all angles of a situation; having my own experiences color the talk don't do us any favors."

That was all she felt comfortable saying about that.

"The topic of civil court came up during last week's discussion, so I decided now was a good time for us to cover that. All of the law we've discussed this term has been criminal law. A citizen commits a crime, and the government, on behalf of the People, files charges. The case goes to trial, and the prosecution bears the burden of proof. If found guilty, the citizen will presumably be sent to prison.

"However. The judicial system can also settle disputes between two private parties, or between organizations. Let's say that you and a mechanic sign a contract, saying that you'll pay him $500 and he will replace your engine. After a week, the mechanic says he can't replace your engine, and returns the car -- but refuses to refund your money. You could argue that this is theft, and attempt to have him arrested on criminal charges, but it's going to be an uphill battle, and it won't get your money back. Instead, you would file a lawsuit in civil court, asking a judge to determine that he is in breach of his contract. If the judge agrees, the mechanic can be ordered to pay you the $500, plus possibly your fees for going to court, or a few hundred more in 'punitive' damages, to slap him on the wrist.

"Civil court also covers torts, wrongful acts that damage someone while not necessarily being criminal. If you cause harm to someone else from negligence and not malicious intent, the victim might file suit against you to pay for their medical bills, along with 'pain and suffering.' Damage doesn't have to be physical; libel and slander are both torts, and those involve maliciously damaging a person's reputation. It should be noted here that truth is a valid defense for libel and slander, regardless of the malice. So if the tabloids publish a sleazy article saying that you're a homewrecker who is sleeping with a politician, it's malicious, but you won't win a libel case if they can prove the affair happened.

"In civil court, the burden of proof is on the person filing charges. But the requirements are more lax. You don't need proof beyond a reasonable doubt; the jury only needs to believe that the allegation is more likely to be true than not. And while criminal trials require a jury to reach a unanimous verdict, civil court can settle with nine out of twelve agreeing." She offered a wry smile to her students. "As we're not at trial, I'd like to remind you that we're not obligated to agree on anything whatsoever. So let's talk about civil court."
endsthegame: (listen to me on this)

Re: Sign In - JST11

[personal profile] endsthegame 2010-03-23 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Andrew Wiggin, the defendant is currently too exhausted to testify.
glacial_queen: (Orders)

Re: Sign In - JST11

[personal profile] glacial_queen 2010-03-23 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Karla, leading the witness!
glacial_queen: (Class-Pondering Lecture)

Re: Talk to the TAs - JST11

[personal profile] glacial_queen 2010-03-23 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Karla was here, but not feeling very well. She'd blame the cookies from her previous class, but she'd been feeling a little nauseous ever since she'd walked to school from the dorms.

Plus there'd been those really dreadful dreams last night. Today was shaping up to be a bad day.

Re: Sign In - JST11

[identity profile] joan-notjane.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Joan Girardi, facts not in evidence

Re: During the Lecture - JST11

[identity profile] joan-notjane.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Joan was a little scowly about this topic given what Andy Baker was putting her family through.

Re: OOC - JST11

[identity profile] joan-notjane.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Joan's gonna refrain from joining the convo today. She's a little bitter about the fact that the guy who was driving drunk and caused the accident that paralyzed her brother is suing her family because Kevin didn't take his keys.

Oh, show.

Re: Sign In - JST11

[identity profile] bamf-tastic.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Kurt Wagner, RELEVANCE?

Re: During the Lecture - JST11

[identity profile] bamf-tastic.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Kurt studiously took notes.

And he had to wonder if Professor X had ever considered protecting mutants and/or stopping Magneto via a lawsuit.
weetuskenraider: (Have a Bad Feeling About This)

Re: Sign In - JST11

[personal profile] weetuskenraider 2010-03-23 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Tahiri Veila who objects on grounds that being put on show trial two years after the fact is a gross abuse of justice perpetrated by a Chief of State with a personal vendetta against Force-users, oh canon

Re: Discussion - Civil Court - JST11

[identity profile] bamf-tastic.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
"So, suing somebody is just a big complicated way of asking a judge to decide who wins an argument?" Kurt asked. "Then how come everyone acts like it's just a way for whiny people to get money?"
weetuskenraider: (Green - It's a Flightsuit Rly)

Re: Talk to Alex - JST11

[personal profile] weetuskenraider 2010-03-23 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Having missed two weeks of class, Tahiri knew she owed Professor Cabot at the very least an explanation for her whereabouts. A simplified explanation, since the entire thing was still too convoluted (and quite frankly ridiculous) to recount, but an explanation nonetheless.

"I'm sorry I haven't been in class the past couple of weeks," she said without preamble, approaching Alex after class with her hands behind her back in the slightly formal posture she'd adopted out of habit in situations like this. "I had some . . . fairly pressing things to deal with back home. I'm more than willing to make up for the work, if that's all right with you."

Re: Case Study - O. J. Simpson - JST11

[identity profile] bamf-tastic.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Kurt frowned. "Um. I guess it's a way to make sure justice is done? But... Couldn't he just have pointed to the trial and said 'see, I'm not guilty'? I mean, they don't really have any grounds to sue him, after that, do they?"

Re: Sign In - JST11

[identity profile] noearsyet.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
George Cooper improper prosecutorial conduct

Re: Talk to the TAs - JST11

[identity profile] bamf-tastic.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Kurt was most definitely not watching Judge Judy. And not just because Wapner was better, either.
likes_scoundrels: (We are not amused)

Re: Sign In - JST11

[personal profile] likes_scoundrels 2010-03-23 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Leia Organa, badgering the witness

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