Ethics [Tuesday, March 3, 2nd period]

[sith_happened]

A very tanned Anakin leaned a little uncomfortably against his desk as he waited for the students to take their seats.

"Today we talk about diligence, temperance, and forgiveness," he said quietly, "and we're going to use examples from the midterm exam to do so."

He flipped the hologram to life, focusing on a shot of Palpatine's face. "The goal was to save this man, the democratically chosen leader of your galaxy, at the cost--if necessary--of your own lives. After the first dozen or so droids shooting at you, you certainly had the option of retreating and leaving the mission for someone else to complete. So when does diligence turn to foolhardiness?"

The holocam switched to footage of two Jedi, blue blades flashing, taking on an older man wielding a red lightsaber. The battle was moving at least three times as fast as the exercise had. The older Jedi went ricocheting into a wall, then the second one, fire in his eyes, closed in on their opponent. A few moments later the Sith dropped to his knees with two lightsabers held to his throat.

The Jedi wielding the lightsabers looked an awful lot like their teacher.

"Temperance," Anakin said softly. "Do you kill him now? He's dangerous. He held the head of a galaxy-wide government hostage. He injured your partner. He certainly tried to kill you first. Or do you capture him and leave him to the whims of the courts?"

He shook his head. "Finally, forgiveness. You save the chancellor, at great personal expense, only to discover he's not the kind of man you thought he was. Your act of heroism has managed to make the situation at home much, much worse. How do you forgive yourself for it? Can you forgive the others who put you into that position?"

Comments

Sign in [3/3]

[sith_happened]

With your most unforgiving icon.

Re: Sign in [3/3]

[likes-chicken.livejournal.com]

Hurley Reyes

Listen to the lecture [3/3]

[sith_happened]

Oooh, movie time!

Don't fall asleep or ask for popcorn, though.

Re: Listen to the lecture [3/3]

[likes-chicken.livejournal.com]

Hurley paid very close attention.

Answer the discussion question: diligence

[sith_happened]

When they're shooting at you, when does diligence turn into foolhardiness?

Answer each other's replies, make the threads messy, etc., etc.

Re: Answer the discussion question: diligence

[rocksthescarf.livejournal.com]

"Pretty much as soon as I'm shot at I'd be out of there," he said. He wouldn't even be in that situation in the first place. Chuck was the person who would hire the stupid people who liked bravery and crap like that to do stuff for him.

Re: Answer the discussion question: diligence

[likes-chicken.livejournal.com]

"Uhhh, it depends. If people I cared about were still in danger and stuff, I wouldn't abandon them," Hurley said.

Re: Answer the discussion question: diligence

[cataclysmicluck.livejournal.com]

"When there's no reasonable way you can succeed," Zayne said. "At that point you need to back off and reconsider your strategy and figure out if it makes any sense to go forward from another direction."

Re: Answer the discussion question: diligence

[intraspective]

"It's not like you can turn tail and leave every time a mission gets dangerous," she said, frowning. "If you run all the time, then there's not even a point in trying."

Re: Answer the discussion question: diligence

[future_sandworm]

"There is no point in wasting your life," Leto replied. "A strategy is advisable. But risks need to be taken in order to achieve things."

Re: Answer the discussion question: diligence

[morpherboy.livejournal.com]

"When it's fairly obvious you're not doing anything useful." Marco said, possibly talking to the table.

Answer the discussion question: temperance

[sith_happened]

The man was old, definitely evil, and pissing you off. Kill him?

Re: Answer the discussion question: temperance

[rocksthescarf.livejournal.com]

"Kill him," he said simply.

Re: Answer the discussion question: temperance

[likes-chicken.livejournal.com]

"I don't think I could kill a guy, if he was surrendered," Hurley said. "That's kinda... evil too."

Re: Answer the discussion question: temperance

[cataclysmicluck.livejournal.com]

"He should have his day in court and let justice run its course," Zayne said.

He wasn't sure how much of that came from the knowledge that he couldn't kill someone like that, even if he wanted to.

Re: Answer the discussion question: temperance

[not-fangirl.livejournal.com]

"I would kill him."

Re: Answer the discussion question: temperance

[elephantgadget.livejournal.com]

Helen shrugged uncomfortably. "It may be the only way to insure that he does not harm others again."

Re: Answer the discussion question: temperance

[repeterpetrelli.livejournal.com]

"I don't think anyone is completely evil," Peter said, thus setting the tone for why many of his loved ones would just not stop facepalming.

Re: Answer the discussion question: temperance

[intraspective]

"Kill him."

The duh was heavily implied.

Re: Answer the discussion question: temperance

[future_sandworm]

"I would examine the consequences of either option. That would determine my choice of action. If killing him now would be likely to cause political issues to my disadvantage, then the courts might be a better option. However, efficiency shouldn't be looked down upon. If killing him would offer a certainty that formal justice might not, then it might be advisable."

Re: Answer the discussion question: temperance

[morpherboy.livejournal.com]

"Before he surrendered? Yeah, kill him. After? Jail or the equivalent trial in the Hague." Marco said, totally not speaking from experience.

Answer the discussion question: forgiveness

[sith_happened]

Can you forgive yourself for making a wrong choice? Would you have chosen to save the chancellor if you'd known it was going to screw up the future?

Re: Answer the discussion question: forgiveness

[rocksthescarf.livejournal.com]

That question was a bit harder to answer.

"I'd get over it," Chuck said. Didn't necessarily mean he'd forgive himself or anybody else.

Talk to the TAs [3/3]

[sith_happened]

Hello, TAs!

Re: Talk to the TAs [3/3]

[cataclysmicluck.livejournal.com]

Zayne was here, and he couldn't help but look thoughtful due to today's class.

Talk to Anakin [3/3]

[sith_happened]

He's there before and after class for any questions.

Re: Talk to Anakin [3/3]

[likes-chicken.livejournal.com]

Hurley approached Anakin after the class.

"Uhhh, Master Skywalker sir? Is it true that the first Jedi lesson is to always pack extra underwear?"

Hey, he was living dangerously, now.

OOC

[sith_happened]

Yay, classes again!

*is a giant dork*

Re: OOC

[not-fangirl.livejournal.com]

Dooooooooooork.