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Anakin Skywalker ([personal profile] sith_happened) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2008-09-15 10:58 pm
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Ethics [Tuesday, September 16, 2nd period]

When the students came into the classroom, they found Anakin scrawling a quote on the board:

“In general, pride is at the bottom of all great mistakes.”--John Ruskin

He turned around with an eyebrow raised. "Is Master Ruskin correct? How about Master Lao Tzu? He said: 'Pride attaches undue importance to the superiority of one's status in the eyes of others; and shame is fear of humiliation at one's inferior status in the estimation of others. When one sets his heart on being highly esteemed, and achieves such rating, then he is automatically involved in fear of losing his status.'"

He began pacing around the room. "Does pride always go before a fall? Do we have to be humiliated before we can learn? How high do the stakes have to be before we'll admit we've made a mistake, or have been fooled?"

"In order to deal ethically with other people, we need to acknowledge this very human flaw in ourselves and others. We want to believe that we are different, better than everyone around us." His gaze sharpened. "We're not. Everything is connected. You, me, the desks, the rocks outside, the deer in the preserve, the annoying person in the dorm who plays their music too loudly. Take pride in being yourself, certainly," he concluded. "But don't for a moment believe that who you are makes you more than the person sitting next to you. Because that kind of pride is where you make your first mistake."

Re: Sign in [9/16]

[identity profile] bad-nose-job.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
Penelope Wilhern

Re: Sign in [9/16]

[identity profile] darkangelsawyer.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
Peyton Sawyer

Re: Listen to the lecture [9/16]

[identity profile] darkangelsawyer.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
Peyton listened, doodling on the edge of her paper as she did so.

Re: Answer discussion question #1 [9/16]

[identity profile] darkangelsawyer.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
"I don't think so," Peyton said. "And I don't think it's pride that usually gets me in trouble. It's fear."

Re: Listen to the lecture [9/16]

[identity profile] bad-nose-job.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Penelope took a few notes, but for the most part her eyes were locked on Master Skywalker as he lectured.

Re: Answer discussion question #2 [9/16]

[identity profile] darkangelsawyer.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
"I don't know," Peyton said. "I think maybe sometimes I'm too quick to decide I've made a mistake."

Re: Sign in [9/16]

[identity profile] lil-yellow.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Bumblebee

Re: Sign in [9/16]

[identity profile] laidanegg.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Dick Grayson

Re: Answer discussion question #1 [9/16]

[identity profile] bad-nose-job.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
"Sometimes," she answered quietly, glancing around the room shyly. "In those moments, you set yourself up for a fall but you don't realize it because you can't see it. All you see is your goal ahead, what you want to achieve, so you, your feelings, are the only things that matter and you'll do almost anything..." she paused, bit her lip though that tiny, worrisome gesture was not seen. Penelope didn't say anything else.

Re: Sign in [9/16]

[identity profile] yourwhiteknight.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Harvey Dent

Re: Sign in [9/16]

[identity profile] kestrelswolf.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Image (Blysse Norwood and Blind Seer)

Re: Listen to the lecture [9/16]

[identity profile] kestrelswolf.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Firekeeper listened, but as usual did not take any notes, let alone pass them.

Re: Answer discussion question #1 [9/16]

[identity profile] laidanegg.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
"No," Dick said. "Usually something has to happen, but it doesn't need to be humiliation or hubris or anything like that. You can learn just as well from something good or something tragic that has nothing to do with pride."

Re: Answer discussion question #1 [9/16]

[identity profile] kestrelswolf.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
"Do not have to be," Firekeeper shrugged. "But sometimes is helping."

Re: Answer discussion question #2 [9/16]

[identity profile] laidanegg.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
This was one of the big differences between Dick and his guardian: Bruce wouldn't admit to a mistake until he had no other choice. Dick was better able to notice his own mistakes, though. Thanks, in no small part, to Bruce for being quick to point them out during training, of course.

"The faster you're able to catch a mistake, the faster you're able to fix it. And if you can fix it fast enough, nobody's going to be any the wiser anyway, so I think it's important to at least fess up to yourself before things get too far."

Re: Answer discussion question #2 [9/16]

[identity profile] kestrelswolf.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Firekeeper snorted. "If mistake is done, then is done. No sense trying to cover trail like injured doe would. Others will scent it, as surely as they scent blood from doe."

Re: Answer discussion question #1 [9/16]

[identity profile] yourwhiteknight.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
"I think it helps the learning process," Harvey admitted. "You're a lot more likely to shut up and listen to someone else if you've been put in your place beforehand."

Re: Answer discussion question #2 [9/16]

[identity profile] yourwhiteknight.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
"I think you own up to a mistake as soon as you make it," Harvey said. "The trouble is that sometimes it takes a while before you realize you've made one."

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