http://certaintrouble.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] certaintrouble.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2007-09-20 09:37 pm
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Debating, Friday September 21

Chuck strolled into class a good five minutes late. This tardiness did not concern him in the least. It was five less minutes he had to spend teaching, right?

He called for the class to quiet down, regardless of their actual noise level or attentiveness. “I want everyone who did extra credit to hand in their generalizations about board-face. Pass them over to him, so that he can get to read them before he hands them in.” He gave the class ample time, then grabbed the generalizations from poor Valentine.

“Today we’re learning the ‘Straw Man’ technique. You set up a misrepresentation of the opponent's position, refute it, and pretend that the opponent's actual position has been refuted. If you do this right, you can set up your “Straw Man” close enough to the opponent’s argument that when you smash it, you smash the real argument as well.”

“Let’s have an example. Say that I’m talking to one of the colleagues at my old school, Flatpoint. As advisers to the principal, there were very important decisions that we had to discuss. Imagine you’re in my shoes, and that the choice you/I make will be implemented and change the school. Losing is not an option.” Chuck added losers suck to his notes on the board. “Say that your colleague wants to remodel the garden in front of the school, when you think it’s just fine, that the statue of the principal is a source of authority and the flowers that are already there are just fine, and there’s nothing in the budget for it so you’d probably get roped into spending a whole Saturday at the school and why the hell would you want to come back for a day of unpaid work, it just a stupid idea, Geoffrey, why do you come up with things like this, it doesn’t make sense, you’re a silly little art teacher and what you know, you in your flouncy little spring shirts, why do you wear them when they’re so damn distracting anyway-”

Chuck stopped. He cleared his throat with something more akin to a squeak. “W-well, the point is that you could say that this- this person’s choice to take out the statue of the principal destroys the sense of authority, and is therefore unpatriotic. After all, if he’s destroying one symbol of authority, what next, a flag?”

“Get it? Break up into pairs and try it out. I’m done teaching. Let’s finish up so I can go call my wife.”


OOC: Not quite ready… It's that great come and get it day! Come and get your schooling!

Re: Straw Man

[identity profile] palestshadow.livejournal.com 2007-09-22 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
"Right," Naminé said. "I've never trusted them, myself. Far too dangerous. Shall you defend them from my appalling slander?"

Re: Straw Man

[identity profile] willbedone.livejournal.com 2007-09-22 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
"Well, who are we to say that they shouldn't have all the hay that they need in order to fill their clothing?" Willow said. "I'm not sure how anyone could make that argument."

Re: Straw Man

[identity profile] palestshadow.livejournal.com 2007-09-22 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
"It isn't the hay that concerns me," Naminé mused. "It's the way they're plotting with the birds. Clearly, they're up to something. Possibly Communism."

Re: Straw Man

[identity profile] willbedone.livejournal.com 2007-09-22 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
"I'm not so sure about that," Willow said. "Maybe the birds are lonely and this way they can have friends."

Re: Straw Man

[identity profile] palestshadow.livejournal.com 2007-09-22 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
"Communist friends," Naminé said with a laugh. "Are you supporting the birds, in their Communism?"

Re: Straw Man

[identity profile] willbedone.livejournal.com 2007-09-22 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
"I am supporting those made of hay and their desire to be open-minded in their associations," Willow replied.

Re: Straw Man

[identity profile] palestshadow.livejournal.com 2007-09-22 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
"I would rather support the right of farmers to not have their crops picked by filthy Communist birds," Naminé sighed.

Wow, being crazy was fun.

Re: Straw Man

[identity profile] willbedone.livejournal.com 2007-09-22 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
"So then you do like them!" Willow said. "You just hate birds, which is a separate argument altogether."

Re: Straw Man

[identity profile] palestshadow.livejournal.com 2007-09-22 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
"Only if you're a filthy bird-loving Communist," Naminé said haughtily. "Are you?"

Re: Straw Man

[identity profile] willbedone.livejournal.com 2007-09-22 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
"I'll have you know I bathe regularly," Willow said.

Re: Straw Man

[identity profile] palestshadow.livejournal.com 2007-09-22 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
"How can I trust the word of someone so willing to defend Communist birds?" Naminé sighed. "It might be more of your trickery."