http://certaintrouble.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] certaintrouble.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2007-09-20 09:37 pm
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Debating, Friday September 21

Chuck strolled into class a good five minutes late. This tardiness did not concern him in the least. It was five less minutes he had to spend teaching, right?

He called for the class to quiet down, regardless of their actual noise level or attentiveness. “I want everyone who did extra credit to hand in their generalizations about board-face. Pass them over to him, so that he can get to read them before he hands them in.” He gave the class ample time, then grabbed the generalizations from poor Valentine.

“Today we’re learning the ‘Straw Man’ technique. You set up a misrepresentation of the opponent's position, refute it, and pretend that the opponent's actual position has been refuted. If you do this right, you can set up your “Straw Man” close enough to the opponent’s argument that when you smash it, you smash the real argument as well.”

“Let’s have an example. Say that I’m talking to one of the colleagues at my old school, Flatpoint. As advisers to the principal, there were very important decisions that we had to discuss. Imagine you’re in my shoes, and that the choice you/I make will be implemented and change the school. Losing is not an option.” Chuck added losers suck to his notes on the board. “Say that your colleague wants to remodel the garden in front of the school, when you think it’s just fine, that the statue of the principal is a source of authority and the flowers that are already there are just fine, and there’s nothing in the budget for it so you’d probably get roped into spending a whole Saturday at the school and why the hell would you want to come back for a day of unpaid work, it just a stupid idea, Geoffrey, why do you come up with things like this, it doesn’t make sense, you’re a silly little art teacher and what you know, you in your flouncy little spring shirts, why do you wear them when they’re so damn distracting anyway-”

Chuck stopped. He cleared his throat with something more akin to a squeak. “W-well, the point is that you could say that this- this person’s choice to take out the statue of the principal destroys the sense of authority, and is therefore unpatriotic. After all, if he’s destroying one symbol of authority, what next, a flag?”

“Get it? Break up into pairs and try it out. I’m done teaching. Let’s finish up so I can go call my wife.”


OOC: Not quite ready… It's that great come and get it day! Come and get your schooling!

Re: Sign In

[identity profile] willbedone.livejournal.com 2007-09-21 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Willow Rosenberg, who wonders why Chuck wants to kill puppies.

Re: Straw Man

[identity profile] willbedone.livejournal.com 2007-09-21 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Willow got ready to make straw man arguments. She felt that she could be very good at this.

Re: Sign In

[identity profile] goodgirlmeg.livejournal.com 2007-09-21 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Meg Manning, who wonders why Chuck is a dirty communist.

Re: Sign In

[identity profile] misshargrove.livejournal.com 2007-09-21 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Annette Hargrove, who wonders why Chuck always looks like he's out of breath.

Or something.
dark_slippy_thing: (Grin- dork)

Re: Sign In

[personal profile] dark_slippy_thing 2007-09-21 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
Valentine, who wonders why Chuck wants so badly for the students to make generalizations about himself in particular.
dark_slippy_thing: (Grin- open mouth)

Re: Extra Credit

[personal profile] dark_slippy_thing 2007-09-21 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Valentine had his own generalization written down, actually.

With the way he dresses, there's a good chance that he's a homeless hobo.

Thank you, little fairy, for that one.

He's actually somewhat excited about getting to read everyone else's generalizations about him, first.

Re: Sign In

[identity profile] scary-jeff.livejournal.com 2007-09-21 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
Jeff Murdock, who wonders why Chuck is trying to kill him.

Re: Sign In

[identity profile] palestshadow.livejournal.com 2007-09-21 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
Naminé, who wonders why Chuck is anti-garden and pro-statue

Re: Straw Man

[identity profile] palestshadow.livejournal.com 2007-09-21 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
Naminé smiled at the other girl. "What are we to be arguing about? Should we select a topic at random?"

Re: Straw Man

[identity profile] willbedone.livejournal.com 2007-09-21 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
"We could argue about scarecrows," Willow suggested.
notclueful: (Default)

Re: Sign In

[personal profile] notclueful 2007-09-21 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Cher Horowitz, who wonders how someone married him
notclueful: (cher has deep thoughts)

Re: Pass Notes, chat

[personal profile] notclueful 2007-09-21 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Cher was totally paying attention in debate class. Even though she was still thinking of slipping a 1-800-contacts ad under the door of his office.
notclueful: (cher is debating)

Re: Straw Man

[personal profile] notclueful 2007-09-21 01:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Cher was definitely ready to argue. She'd gotten a lot of practice in Mad Science class. Hey, who knew! It was good for something!

Re: Sign In

[identity profile] girlzippo.livejournal.com 2007-09-21 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Charlie McGee, who wonders what Chuck has against art

Re: Extra Credit

[identity profile] girlzippo.livejournal.com 2007-09-21 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Charlie has no idea what to generalize about Valentine. She doesn't know him at all, although... wait, he's a director, right? Fandom Chicken!

With his talent for direction, he would probably make a good dictator.

Re: Sign In

[identity profile] stocksgrrl.livejournal.com 2007-09-21 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
T.R. Wexler, who wonders where the budget proposals in all this garden planning might be

Re: Extra Credit

[identity profile] stocksgrrl.livejournal.com 2007-09-21 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Turtle had an entire page of Valentine generalizations. Her favorite one was about with skill like that, he'll never juggle those nine balls. Tsk.

Re: Straw Man

[identity profile] stocksgrrl.livejournal.com 2007-09-21 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Turtle waited for her victim to come to her. Unless it was Jeff. She would still refuse to ever debate with him in this class.

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