fandomhigh | Constant Vigilance 2, Session 10. Friday November 17th, Period 4

The Doctor was sitting in the chair behind his desk, juggling apples.

As everyone entered the classroom, they'd find an apple at each of their desks. Once everyone arrived, the Doctor dimmed the lights and projected a bizzare figure with a big metal unit over its chest and tubing everywhere.

"That, ladies and gentlemen, is a Cyberman. One of the earliest models, and the first I encountered. They are not a race of robots, as inside there are bits and pieces of what was once a person. There are from the planet Mondas, a twin planet of Earth that was knocked out of its original orbit. One thing led to another, and there's more about that in the packet I have for you."

The Doctor did, in fact, start passing out a packet.

"The thing is, that as technology improved, their look altered as well. This clunky design gave way to another, and another, and then we had something more like this." The Doctor hit a button on the projector and the shape changed to a sleeker, more silver looking thing. "So, what do I have to say about the Cybermen?"

He paused and thought for a second.

"I'm not going to judge them, quite yet. At least not to you. I have a question to pose to all of you. The Cybermen were created to remove the imperfections of the Mondas race. In order to survive, they said. Furthering the species. Though now, they sort of forcibly improve all the other humanoid species they come across, as well. Assuming they don't kill you on sight. Now, there's a lot of thinking you can do on this subject, lots of moral posing, etcetera. Now I want you to do just that. Pair up, and talk about this."

He cleared his throat. "Is giving up things such as certain emotions, physical sensations, a few pounds of flesh... is that progress? Is that an acceptable cost if you'd then live effectively forever?" The Doctor smirked at the class. "Well? Would you?"

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Kaylee thought about it as she looked over the packet.

Door looks over from her own packet and frowns. "If you give up the bits of your mind that make you care about things and people, haven't you pretty much killed yourself anyway? I don't see any point in living forever if you're not even aware you're alive."

She blinks, obviously bothered by this idea, then adds, "Sorry, I'm Door.

"I'm Kaylee," she said cheerfully. Then she started nodding. "I agree with you. Why bother livin' if we ain't got no feelings or even any idea we're alive?"

"And then why make more people like that? I mean what's the point? A race surviving doesn't accomplish anything on its own if the only thing they do is make more of themselves."

"Why make people the exact same?" Kaylee added. "Our differences are what make us unique. Bein' the same would be boring I would think."

"I guess maybe not to them, if they don't care about anything but making more of themselves," Door says, frowning again. "It's like they're animals, but the ones that are so tiny and brainless they don't do anything but mate and eat."

"That's definitely a good way to describe 'em," Kaylee said, also frowning.

"The animals do it because that's how they're made, but why would people want to become something like that?"

Kaylee thought about that for a moment. "No reason I can think of. I know I wouldn't wanna live like that."

Door thinks hard about it, because it really does disturb her. "Maybe... whoever started it really didn't want to live anymore, for some reason? But couldn't admit that, or... they didn't really want to die but they wanted to not hurt anymore, so instead they started cutting out all the bits that hurt them."

"That's real sad if that were the case," Kaylee said, shaking her head. "But why take others down with them? Still ain't right."

"No." Door echoes Kaylee's headshaking. "Though I suppose once you've cut out enough bits that you've forgotten you were human, you forget what's right or wrong, too."

Kaylee nodded. "And they can't think for themselves."

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