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Constant Vigilance 2, Session 10. Friday November 17th, Period 4

The Doctor was sitting in the chair behind his desk, juggling apples.

As everyone entered the classroom, they'd find an apple at each of their desks. Once everyone arrived, the Doctor dimmed the lights and projected a bizzare figure with a big metal unit over its chest and tubing everywhere.

"That, ladies and gentlemen, is a Cyberman. One of the earliest models, and the first I encountered. They are not a race of robots, as inside there are bits and pieces of what was once a person. There are from the planet Mondas, a twin planet of Earth that was knocked out of its original orbit. One thing led to another, and there's more about that in the packet I have for you."

The Doctor did, in fact, start passing out a packet.

"The thing is, that as technology improved, their look altered as well. This clunky design gave way to another, and another, and then we had something more like this." The Doctor hit a button on the projector and the shape changed to a sleeker, more silver looking thing. "So, what do I have to say about the Cybermen?"

He paused and thought for a second.

"I'm not going to judge them, quite yet. At least not to you. I have a question to pose to all of you. The Cybermen were created to remove the imperfections of the Mondas race. In order to survive, they said. Furthering the species. Though now, they sort of forcibly improve all the other humanoid species they come across, as well. Assuming they don't kill you on sight. Now, there's a lot of thinking you can do on this subject, lots of moral posing, etcetera. Now I want you to do just that. Pair up, and talk about this."

He cleared his throat. "Is giving up things such as certain emotions, physical sensations, a few pounds of flesh... is that progress? Is that an acceptable cost if you'd then live effectively forever?" The Doctor smirked at the class. "Well? Would you?"

[ooc: ~~Wait for OCD~~ OCD up up and away! Go forth and talk!]

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They are legion, for they are many.

Pippi's thinking about it.

Nadia looked over the information for awhile before speaking. "It's one thing to choose to do something like that for yourself. It's totally another thing to force other people to do it, too."

"I couldn't agree more."

Nadia nodded. "Okay, that was easy. What should we do, now?"

Pippi shrugged.

"I dunno, it's been a while since we planned something fun... We should figure out something to do. Like... going fishing?"

"Isn't that just an excuse to get drunk on a small boat?"

"Now when you have a big boat." Pippi grinned.

Kaylee thought about it as she looked over the packet.

Door looks over from her own packet and frowns. "If you give up the bits of your mind that make you care about things and people, haven't you pretty much killed yourself anyway? I don't see any point in living forever if you're not even aware you're alive."

She blinks, obviously bothered by this idea, then adds, "Sorry, I'm Door.

"I'm Kaylee," she said cheerfully. Then she started nodding. "I agree with you. Why bother livin' if we ain't got no feelings or even any idea we're alive?"

"And then why make more people like that? I mean what's the point? A race surviving doesn't accomplish anything on its own if the only thing they do is make more of themselves."

"Why make people the exact same?" Kaylee added. "Our differences are what make us unique. Bein' the same would be boring I would think."

"I guess maybe not to them, if they don't care about anything but making more of themselves," Door says, frowning again. "It's like they're animals, but the ones that are so tiny and brainless they don't do anything but mate and eat."

"That's definitely a good way to describe 'em," Kaylee said, also frowning.

"The animals do it because that's how they're made, but why would people want to become something like that?"

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Stark was frowning at his packet while he waited for someone to talk to.

"So my guess is no," Cameron decided as he plopped down in the seat beside Stark.

"It isn't right," Stark replied, shaking his head. "Wouldn't do it. Would you?"

"No, it sounds like a big prize to pay if you're going to forget that people have a right to be happy the way they are," Cameron said.

"It does," Stark agreed. "I understand wanting to survive. Everyone wants to survive. But if you're not you anymore, surviving isn't worth it."

"Maybe they didn't notice," Cameron suggested. "Maybe if you replace one part, you don't remember after a while what you're missing."

Stark gave a little shudder at that. "Maybe. But wouldn't they see when the others did it? That they weren't themselves anymore after they started?"

"Possibly. It's always easier to ignore your own faults than others," Cameron said. "Then again, it's easier to turn a blind eye if it means you can ignore your own mistakes."