US Government (Friday, April 21, 4th period)

[professor-lyman.livejournal.com]

Josh was reading an article about a health care plan proposed by some Texas Congressman named Santos that Toby had forwarded to him when the government class began arriving.

"Next week's class will be a review session, so today we talk about the last thing that you'll be required to care about for the final exam." He pointed to the board, where he had written lobbyists and the media.

"Technically, not part of the three separate but equal branches of government that the Founders had envisioned, but especially in the modern age, incredibly influential in the way laws are drawn up and passed."

He kicked his feet up onto his desk. "You've done the handwavy reading. How do you think the Founders would react if they came back and wandered down K Street and saw all the lobbying firms? Or turned on Fox News? Do you think this is what they had in mind? Do you think they could see how we got here? Would George Washington have a heart attack to see what we've done?"

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Lobbyists and the Media

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"Where does Sean Hannity fit in the system of government? If he doesn't, can we boot him off a cliff?"

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Isabel rolled her eyes, "The founders would probably march on K Street with pitchforks and torches. As for Hannity, there's so much methane coming from the um, dung, he emits that he's probably a significant contributer to global warming on his own."

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Josh grinned. "It's been a while since we've had a decent tar and feathering."

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Angela seemed to be staring out a window. "The founders used the media too," she pointed out. "Thomas Paine would be a blogger, if he was alive now."

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Josh nodded. "Probably true. But do you think he would've had the same kind of impact as Common Sense did back in the 1700s? With so much information available, would he have been drowned in the rest of the noise being spit out in a 24-hour news cycle?"

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[kitty--fetish.livejournal.com]

"They might be a bit surprised about how things have turned out, but if they had the technology and ability we have today, it wouldn't be all that different from how it is now. People are pretty much the same no matter how much time goes by."

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[professor-lyman.livejournal.com]

"So if we were colonists right now and wanted to become our own country--Jefferson would fire up his blog, send out a chain email to his buddies in the state houses?"

He snickered. "I bet Washington would never check his email."

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[peter--parker.livejournal.com]

"Mostly, I think Washington would be weirded out by the moving pictures. Once he got over that, though, I think he and the other Founders would see the benefits of our current setup and abuse it just like most politicians."

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[professor-lyman.livejournal.com]

Josh smiled. "I'll have to see if someone around here knows how to bring him back next year. I'd be fun to watch his brain break."

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"Not all lobbyists are bad." Elizabeth might have been pouting slightly at this. "Sometimes they're the only way that Washington will actually listen to problems, and not even then with some of the idiots that actually got elected."

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"Some of my best friends are lobbyists," Josh said. "Really. It's not just one of those things people say. They do good work, highlighting issues that need to have more attention paid. But then you also have, like, the beer lobby. Who are hugely popular only because they throw killer parties in the Rayburn building."

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Angel? What the heck? Don't forget there are zats in the armory. Just hit once.

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[carter-i-am.livejournal.com]

"I think some of them might have been lobbyists," Sam said, "advocating one issue because they believe in it so strongly that they want to convince everyone else to see their point of view. The media," Sam rolled her eyes, remembering the problems they'd had over the years keeping the SGC secret, "serves a rational purpose, or did at one time, anyway. Now? It seems to be all about unearthing scandal."

"Which is great when the scandal is Watergate, or embezzlement, but I don't really care when the President's cheating on his wife. I mean, who didn't?"

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[kawalsky.livejournal.com]

"I think they all would've ended up resolving their issues on Jerry Springer."

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[professor-lyman.livejournal.com]

Josh snickered. "Ben Franklin would be a hair-puller."

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[whitedeathpod.livejournal.com]

"Maybe they'd do an East Block Story type thing. Lobbyists and the Founding Fathers in a big dance/snap off?"

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[oatmanspatient.livejournal.com]

"Um... Ben Franklin? Thomas Paine? Thomas Jefferson? They *were* the media," Marty pointed out. "But as for the lobbyists? Yeah. I think that's a bit of a perversion of the way government was back then."

After class

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The Student Council should be here soon, but Josh had a couple of minutes.

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