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Ethics, Thursday, December 15, 2016

Anakin was glaring at the ceiling as if that would stop the festive surfer holiday music from playing. He'd been glaring for twenty minutes and so far, nothing.

"Hopefully the music won't distract you from your final," Anakin said. "You've had four days to recover from the last week, so I trust you're all fine now."

Nice, nurturing Jedi, there.

"And if not, you may always ask us to consider a resit for you," said Obi-Wan, who was... slightly more nurturing than Anakin? "We will offer you a number of questions based on these past few months. There are not necessarily wrong answers, merely wrong argumentation."

Anakin nodded. "So pick an option in the scenarios and then explain why you chose it, please."

"Try to motivate your reasoning as well as you possibly can," Obi-Wan said. "That is all we ask."

He stepped aside.

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Could be worse. Could be "Christmas Shoes."

A rebel who has threatened to explode several bombs in crowded areas has been caught. Unfortunately, she has already planted the bombs and they are scheduled to go off in a short time. It's possible that hundreds of people may die and the authorities cannot make her divulge the location of the bombs by conventional methods. In exasperation, some high level official suggests torture. This would be illegal, of course, but the official thinks that it is nevertheless the right thing to do in this desperate situation. What do you do and why?

a) Torture her to get the information. There's no time left to be reasonable.
b) Torture her and her family to get the information, then blow up her planet. If you're going to do something illegal, might as well be really, really thorough.
c) Continue working through the the legal structure of the judicial system and hope for the best.

Edited 2016-12-15 13:56 (UTC)

You have a friend whose homeworld has long since been embroiled in a civil war. The war has gone on for generations, and there appears to be no end in sight. However, your friend and some of their companions back home believe they can put a stop to it by getting in between the warring factions. Since you have powers or skills that they do not, they ask for your help. Do you intervene, despite having only one, biased, second-hand account of the war and what might be fueling it? Or do you refuse, and potentially abandon your friend to a very dangerous situation?

a) You go and fight. You're loyal to your friend, and don't want to see them or their world suffer. You'll sort out the complexities later.
b) You go, but you only provide support, such as setting up a hospital or attempting to mediate between the factions.
c) You try to reason with your friend. Are they sure they can simply fix something that has been broken for so many generations? Perhaps they need to take a step back and find another way to solve the problem.
d) You refuse to intervene at all. It isn't your fight.

You're involved in a conflict of your own. There's a time limit: if you don't do something quickly, the entire planet, or even galaxy, might suffer. But your mentor insists on stopping and helping every single lost soul he comes across along the way. Do you:

a) Support him in this: you should help on the small as well as the large scale, after all.
b) Go along with it, but make your disapproval very clear and try to speed things up.
c) Argue with him loudly and provide an incentive to stop doing it.
d) Abandon him and all of his lost causes and go save the planet yourself.

You're a part of an Order that wields great physical and mental power, which seeks to do good in the universe, and as a result, they have very strict rules about emotional entanglements. Yet one day, you meet someone who moves your heart deeply. What do you do?

a) you understand that the rules were designed as such for a reason, so you quit the Order before beginning a relationship with this person;
b) you understand that the rules were designed as such for a reason, so you quietly extricate yourself from the other party's life so you can focus on doing great good elsewhere;
c) you don't see the rules as having any value, and continue to quietly see this person on the side while continuing your work.

What particular vice or issue do you believe is your greatest stumbling block in making ethical choices? Do you consider this a 'bug', or a 'feature' in yourself?

Bonus question:
You've spent a large portion of your life happily repressing some past issue. Someone has given you cause to reexamine your reaction to this issue. You:
a) realize that their perspective is flawed, but they may have some point, and turn your attention internally;
b) realize that their perspective is flawed, and your coping methods are doing just well by you, thank you;
c) realize that their perspective is flawed, and perhaps through dialogue you can come to some understanding if one another;
d) realize that their perspective is flawed, and see this as cause to break into their space and set up an elaborate glitter trap.

Over the holiday music, of course.

16 DAYS LEFT OF THIS SHITTY YEAR, YA'LL.

TONIGHT I SEE STAR WARS.

Ahsoka Tano

Ahsoka frowned at the test, then at Anakin and Obi-Wan.

Get the rebel to beat you up as a distraction while sending the rest of your team to find and disarm the bombs.

Tali'Zorah

That frown wasn't going away any time soon.

You get a pirate to deliver rocket launchers to your friend.

She could come up with pointed answers too.

You argue loudly with each other while the Padawan does the work.

Thanks for the reminder of the thing Ahsoka had been repressing since the weekend. Enjoy the written equivalent of keysmashing that made up Ahsoka's answer.

My examples.

Ahsoka didn't specify further purely to annoy Anakin.

Which one of you got glittered?

Lucille Sharpe

I believe option b would be most efficient, although blowing up the planet seems unnecessary for actually achieving the goal. So I choose a. Laws can stand in the way of reason.

Ada Miller

d) I wouldn't even be there, I stay as far away from 'authorities' as possible.

It was true.

If I am there, I'm the one they think is the terrorist, and if I was planting a bomb for some reason, you gotta wonder why.

ADA

Ada circled both B and D a few times.

Had they realized how much glitter she wore on a daily basis?

A. My friends aren't idiots.

Ada had been raised to be paranoid and distrusting of anyone not a member of the Family. If she cared enough about someone who wasn't a Miller to get involved, there was probably a Very Good Reason.

C + E. I'm not sure why anyone would think I can save a planet.

A

Ada wasn't sure why this was a question. People were more important than rules, but hiding a relationship or keeping someone on the side wasn't fair to them. No job was worth hurting someone you were supposed to care about that much.

...ignore the fact she'd always choose the carnival over romance. But there wasn't ever going to be any chance for happily-ever-after for her, so it didn't matter.

I wasn't raised with Townie 'morals' -- not that Ada thought Townies were actually moral in any way, shape, or form -- so I don't have their hang-ups.

Yes.

The holiday music.

Sigh.

Peridot

Peridot stared long and hard at this question. C seemed like a futile gesture and B seemed entirely like overkill, an illogical extreme that existed mostly out of spite. Anyway, she was already a traitor to Homeworld, so what was a little lawbreaking for the greater good?

A. It's the most expedient solution and if she's clearly a guilty party, she'd likely be shattered for her treachery anyway.

Oh, this was going to be an interesting one, too.

D. C. B. I'm no fighter, but for the right friend I would intervene if necessary.

I would want to say D, as a suffering galaxy does nobody any favors no matter how much assistance they're personally handed beforehand. I've attempted it before, however, and now I'm a traitor to my Homeworld and stuck on Earth forever. With that in mind, grudgingly, B.

D- I have no interest in such 'entanglements.'

Peridot wrinkled her nose a little bit.

Having been created as a member of a race of world-conquerors, I am still learning 'ethics' as they are understood by Earth standards. This, I consider a flaw, and I am working to learn better. I'm also possessive of a mind that is far more logical than emotional... empathy is something that all Gems are capable of, but it is not a personal strong point. I don't resent my logical mind, but I accept that it requires me to be more cognizant of the effects my actions have on those around me.

... Repressing issues isn't in my nature.

If it were, and if their perspective was truly flawed, I suppose C would be the most sensible approach.

A, but only if it was a very good friend, and those are rare.

D. He sounds like the wrong kind of mentor anyway.

A. Such an Order wouldn't be worth being a part of.

I don't care as much about convention as others do. I consider this an advantage.

"B. My own judgement is my best guide."

Mara Jade

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