http://prof-methos.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] prof-methos.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2006-02-14 01:31 pm

History of Medieval England - Tuesday 6th Period: Lecture 5: Post-Conquest Royal Family Infighting

Methos greets the students that come in. "Welcome, all. So proud of you that you made it into class on Valentine's Day. Because, really, what's more romantic than an elderly celibate priest?

"I have your tests. The less said, the better. Actually, Ms. Mal Doran, please see me after 7th period. The rest of you got the grade you assigned yourself, or an A if you did not can pick up your tests after class.

"And so we begin our next section: Family Infighting, and Why We Care."


"All right. When last we left England, I promised to tell you about a civil war. I can get into details about Stephen verses Matilda and the back and forth of their fighting for about 17 years, but instead I want to focus on an aspect that will become the center of this unit.

"When William the Conqueror imported feudalism to England, he was able to structure it far more to his benefit -- largely because he had some idea of how it worked, and didn't, on the Continent. But that stripped a lot of power from the nobles, both the Anglo-Saxon ones -- those that were left -- who had been conquered and the Norman ones who were used to circumventing the feudal system. William himself was a strong enough personality to dominate the aristocracy, for the most part. But when your government rests upon a cult of personality, losing that figure is devastating.

"Henry I was also a strong-willed leader, and his reign is remembered as a peaceful one where law and justice were fostered. But when his son and heir died, he insisted that his daughter Matilda inherit the English throne. Matilda did not have the qualities that her father and grandfather had. Nor did her cousin, Stephen, who took the throne when Henry I died.

"The upshot was, the nobles of England weren't willing to follow either of them. It wasn't until Matilda's son Henry was old enough to take the throne that another strong personality managed to unite the nobility -- or, more accurately perhaps, play them off of each other -- and peace was assured in England.

"Henry II was a tireless leader. He had to be. He ran an empire -- from the Pyrenees on the border of modern-day Spain to the Scottish Highlands. His reign was remarkably long for the era -- he took the throne at 21 and died thirty-five years later. His long reign eventually became a problem. His sons were adults and wanted their share of the power. When Henry died, all of his living sons were in open rebellion against him, and his wife was in prison for helping her favorite son, Richard.

"However, as juicy as all this gossip is, and as much as it has been mined for historical fiction... it was not truly important to the average person. While the top 1% was warring over who got the throne, Henry II's government was stable enough to give the rest of England a solid basis in law and justice. As much as one may crack jokes about the British sense of fair play, it can been seen here, where law -- both Roman law newly being rediscovered on the Continent and old Anglo-Saxon laws that had never been ousted on a community level -- was the absolute. True, it could be abused, manipulated and ignored -- and was -- but the abstract sense that justice should be served for all was the overriding impulse."

[[OCD threads are up. Class is open.]]

Re: SIGN IN: Attendence

[identity profile] cameronmitchell.livejournal.com 2006-02-14 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Cameron signs in.

Re: SIGN IN: Attendence

[identity profile] aka-vala.livejournal.com 2006-02-14 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Vala signs in.

Re: SIGN IN: Attendence

[identity profile] upforachase.livejournal.com 2006-02-15 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Cordy signs in.

Re: SIGN IN: Attendence

[identity profile] notcalledlizzie.livejournal.com 2006-02-15 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Elizabeth signs in.

Re: SIGN IN: Attendence

[identity profile] lovelylana.livejournal.com 2006-02-14 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
[OOC: *falls over laughing* And if you haven't come to see the Wedding Debacle Class you should definitely do so!]

Re: SIGN IN: Attendence

[identity profile] mparkerceo.livejournal.com 2006-02-14 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Parker signs in, and scowls. She'd studied for that test, damnit.
swerval_zero: (Default)

Re: SIGN IN: Attendence

[personal profile] swerval_zero 2006-02-14 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Zero signs in and wishes she could go watch the debacle that is sex class.
swerval_zero: (plz to leave alone/depressed)

Re: SIGN IN: Attendence

[personal profile] swerval_zero 2006-02-14 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Like Valentine's Day didn't suck enough already. In retaliation, Zero pouts all through class. She's very good at pouting.

Re: QUESTIONS: MEH Lecture 5

[identity profile] mparkerceo.livejournal.com 2006-02-14 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"Wouldn't that whole empire have fallen apart if Eleanor of Aquitaine hadn't gotten divorced?" Parker's eyes narrowed. "From the king of France, I mean. Because all they had were daughters. And wasn't that the stupidest thing he ever did, considering Aquitaine went with her?"

Re: QUESTIONS: MEH Lecture 5

[identity profile] mparkerceo.livejournal.com 2006-02-15 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
"It was a comedown?" Parker blinked. "A king's a king. Okay, Paris isn't London, but still. I still say Louis was nuts. But then, I think the monarchy system of inheritance is nuts, treating countries like family silver. You have to earn the throne." She cocked her head. "Then again, that's how they ended up with Richard and Henry and John fighting it out before their dad was even dead, I suppose. Thank god I don't have any siblings."

Re: TALKING IN CLASS: MEH Lecture 5

[identity profile] aka-vala.livejournal.com 2006-02-14 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Vala winces at hearing her name called out for special treatment. Damn! She knew she totally bombed that test.

Re: TALKING IN CLASS: MEH Lecture 5

[identity profile] cameronmitchell.livejournal.com 2006-02-14 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Cameron winces too and tries to give her a reassuring look.

Re: OOC: MEH Lecture 5

[identity profile] aka-vala.livejournal.com 2006-02-14 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Vala grins and shrugs. Hopefully it won't take too long.

Re: AFTER CLASS: MEH Lecture 5

[identity profile] cameronmitchell.livejournal.com 2006-02-14 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Cameron goes to pick up his test and wonders if he'd get an F if he tries to insist that he needs his girlfriend for the fun part of the day.

Re: TALKING IN CLASS: MEH Lecture 5

[identity profile] mparkerceo.livejournal.com 2006-02-14 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Parker goes to pick up her test and glares at Dr. Pierson. Were it anyone else, she would be saying, "I deserve an A, damnit," but she knows that won't fly with him. So she's patient. For her.

"Happy Valentine's Day. Or something."

Re: AFTER CLASS: MEH Lecture 5

[identity profile] lovelylana.livejournal.com 2006-02-14 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
[OOC: Lana got a delivery (http://community.livejournal.com/fandomhighdorms/465804.html?#cutid2) of um... Kama Sutra stuff during your class - while she wasn't there. I'm sure Methos will have a field day with that when she shows up after class very shortly. ;) ]

Re: AFTER CLASS: MEH Lecture 5

[identity profile] notcalledlizzie.livejournal.com 2006-02-15 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Elizabeth joins the others at the front to come and pick up her test.

Re: OOC: MEH Lecture 5

[identity profile] mparkerceo.livejournal.com 2006-02-14 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
*thumbs up*

Re: OOC: MEH Lecture 5

[identity profile] aka-vala.livejournal.com 2006-02-14 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd say it could go a bit longer, just for more to discuss. (but then again, you've seen the monster lectures I come up with. :-p)