http://badnewsandwit.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] badnewsandwit.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2012-01-24 06:06 pm
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Polar Opposites, Tuesday

"Hello everyone, welcome back to our class on debating," Alistair said.

Yes, he'd just figured out that's what they were doing. Give him a gold star, everyone! "Like last week, we'll be debating another random topic from the jar... thing..."

"Yes, the 'jar thing,'" Morrigan replied dryly, holding it out for him to pick this time. "You students are to be congratulated on keeping it civilized so far."

Alistair gave her a foul look. "In spite of some of the terrible examples some of us have shown you," he said, then took out a note. "And we've got... 'classrooms: co-ed or same-sex'."

Beat. "Where did you find these..."

"In a book, at their library, on debate topics," Morrigan informed him. "I understand that wardens spend a great deal of time sharpening their swords-" totally dirty, "-but you really ought to visit their repository. 'Tis full of marvelous tomes."

"You have never been to our repository, because we don't let anybody in there," Alistair said. And by 'nobody' he also meant 'junior wardens', yes. "Well, if you're so clever, why don't you explain the topic?"

"'Their' meaning the school's library, Alistair," Morrigan replied patiently, as if she was talking to a particularly stupid cow. "Although my mother has a few choice words about the collections of both the wardens and the Circle. 'Short-sighted' is her favorite, along with 'dull' and 'lies,' although the last one is mostly reserved for the Circle."

"Same-gender classrooms are, as they sound, classes filled with all boys, or all girls. I am given to understand that co-ed is the set-up here, where males and females mingle freely," she continued. "There are a number of arguments for and against each model."

"And I," Alistair said, "Figured out your print-ahr so you can read them." So in your face, Morrigan.

And hey, he had! He had in fact printed out everything they'd ever need for this class, topic-explanation-wise. All in one afternoon, in fact!

... which made his learning curve from 'crumpled and in pink ink halfway on the page' to 'readable' more than a little obvious.

[identity profile] squire-hand.livejournal.com 2012-01-25 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
James of Krondor

Re: Listen to the Lecture

[identity profile] secretheritage.livejournal.com 2012-01-24 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Cassie was silently looking at the handouts -- every so often tilting them slightly.

Re: Debate! Co-ed vs. Same Sex - Co-ed!

[identity profile] secretheritage.livejournal.com 2012-01-24 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"Things are more interesting when you have the opinions of both males and females in a given situation," Cassie said shyly.

Re: Debate! Co-ed vs. Same Sex - Co-ed!

[identity profile] ancientbschamp.livejournal.com 2012-01-24 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
"There's a saying in my Amazon tribe --" and years later she couldn't bring this up without a faint, wistful smile at the memory of Terreis -- "that it's a man's world not because it should be, but because we let them have it," Gabrielle began. "For a long time it was a justification for living apart . . . but it was also a justification for staying at war with the Centaur settlement nearby. When we forged a peace treaty with the Centaurs a couple of years ago, it turned out to be beneficial for both sides, and instead of being at odds all the time there's greater understanding between the two sides."

She traced a fingertip along one of the henna lines on the back of her hand before going on.

"I don't think the principle applies differently to education, either. I still believe what my tribe says, and that we shouldn't just sit back and let it keep being a man's world -- but as long as there's separation, how is there going to be understanding? In life, or in school?"

Re: Debate! Co-ed vs. Same Sex - Same Sex

[identity profile] squire-hand.livejournal.com 2012-01-25 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
"Combining both girls and boys for communal activities such as meals and well as combined instruction for some subjects such as letters and reading, but most instruction and tutoring is best done while divided," he said. "Not a lot of sword training for princesses." Except Carline.

Granted, this was from his own personal history when girls tended towards the more delicate arts such as needlepoint, producing heirs, poison, and luring the mark while the boys tended towards swordwork, housebreaking, hunting, and garroting. Mockers had no real gender bias towards pickpocketing or purse cutting, but had few female Bashers. The Court also favored boys for the martial arts and rough outdoor work.

Re: Talk to the TA

[identity profile] chief-cheerio.livejournal.com 2012-01-24 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
If nothing else, this model of teaching kept the class awake? Quinn contemplated her options for the debate.