http://bugofjustice.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] bugofjustice.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2005-11-22 06:25 am
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Criminal Justice Class 21

[OOC: For some reason, I don't think today will be much of a lecture day. Discuss or get flamed! Class Info Link.]

Lockheed was at The Tick's desk. Tick was nowhere to be seen. On the dry erase board behind the desk, the following was written in a careful but unnatural script:

Professor Tick out of town. Professor Lockheed is sub.

TODAY:

Reform is part of Justice. Go to jail. If you feel sorry, then you someday get out, become a decent person.

Is this Just? Do some crimes override reform? Should more happen to prove reform? Is stigma of being criminal good continued punishment?

DISCUSS REFORM AND ITS PLACE IN SOCIETY!


The grammar may have needed some work, but it was still pretty impressive for a non-English speaking dragon. When the students were done reading that board, Lockheed gestured to a side board. It read:

EXTRA CREDIT:

Give Prof. Lockheed a cookie.
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[personal profile] fates_jaye 2005-11-22 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Jaye glares. She may or may not hiss, "Little Wooden Boy killer!"

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[identity profile] oatmanspatient.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Marty offers Lockheed a thin mint.
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[personal profile] fates_jaye 2005-11-22 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Jaye makes a "Hmph!" sound.

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[identity profile] cameronmitchell.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
"Here you go," Cameron gives Lockheed a chocolate chip cookie. He wonders if he shouldn't be more disturbed about getting class from a small dragon, but apparently he's getting used to strange.

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[identity profile] anextimeagent.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
*offers a s'more... it's cookie-like, plus application of fire only improves it*

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[identity profile] aka-vala.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Vala's all about the easy extra-credit. She offers Lockheed a choclate-dipped macaroon.

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[identity profile] emo-padawan.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Anakin's all about the extra credit. He offered Lockheed a shortbread cookie.
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[personal profile] can_be_more 2005-11-22 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Of all the frelling subjects...

"The punishment should fit the crime," Aeryn says and feels slightly hypocritical but everyone involved knows her feelings on this. "If you kill a dozen people in cold blood, the likelihood of something happening to make you the kind of person that can fit into society isn't good and you should spend the rest of your life in a cell, or if your culture allows punishment by death, it would fit. There are lesser crimes where reform would make sense, though. And I'm not sure how well 'sorry' fits in to any of it."

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[identity profile] oatmanspatient.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
"Reform is always possible, though redemption? That's a more tricky concept. Someone can change their ways but to actually redeem themselves is another story entirely," Marty says thinking of his own history.

"To redeem yourself? That's the real struggle and it shouldn't be easy."
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[personal profile] fates_jaye 2005-11-22 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
"It all depends," Jaye says. "Are we talking about mass murder, or the murder of one innocent little wooden boy?"

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[identity profile] cameronmitchell.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
"Our justice system is based on the believe that people deserve a second chance. I think if someone feels truly sorry for what they did, the guilt itself can be the heaviest punishment to get. It still doesn't undo what happened, but they've got a right to try to make up for things." He pauses.

"I know some places think that in case of murder, the state has the right to take the life of the murderer as punishment. I'm not sure if I agree with that and I'm kinda glad I don't have to make that decision."

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[identity profile] aka-vala.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
"I guess it depends on whether any reform happens. If some Crazy Squid Lady Vampires were locked up forever, they'd never change. Then again, if something else is messing with your mind like a demon or a snake in your head, then the wrong person might end up being blamed, and you can have instant reform -- or instant change anyway, when there's actually nothing to reform from." Vala stops, thinking she's just talked herself in a circle and looking kinda confused.

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[identity profile] emo-padawan.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Anakin was silent, thinking about the question for a long time. Finally he said, "I believe that reform can be possible most of the time, assuming the being really wants to make a change. But some choices?" he sighed, "Some choices are forever. Irrevocable. True justice must be served, regardless of how badly a being feels about what he, she, or it has done." In his head he heard Yoda's voice, "Once you go down the dark parth, forever will it dominate your destiny."

Re: After Class

[identity profile] cameronmitchell.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
"Happy Thanksgiving, Lockheed."
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[personal profile] janet_fraiser 2005-11-28 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Janet yawned. "There's a huge place for reform," she said. "What are you going to do, lock everyone up and throw away the key, or give them a chance to prove they learned the difference between wrong and right?"

Janet was out of the chocolate chip cookies, but she had some Girl Scout cookies in her bag. She pulled one out and put it on Lockheed's desk.

OOC: Oh, crap, I nearly forgot about this.