http://badnewsandwit.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] badnewsandwit.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2011-10-24 06:44 pm

Cultural Understanding, Monday

"These past few weeks," Alistair began, looking a fair deal more dignified than he had last week, "We have spoken about all kinds of practices found among the living. But some say that what defines us as people is the way we pay respects to our dead."

Maybe not 'dignified'. Somber. Try somber.

"The Wardens are warriors," he continued, "And so we often fall in battle. There isn't always... time... to dig graves, and not all of those among us keep faith in the Chant. Often, perhaps... too often, we can honor our fallen only by speaking of them afterwards."

"Whereas in the Wilds, your option is to bury the body under a cairn of stone, in hopes that the animals will not ravage it, or build a pyre," Morrigan stated bluntly. "To speak of the dead serves no purpose to them, and 'tis only useful to those that cannot move on."

"Sometimes, speaking of them is what someone needs to 'move on'," Alistair said. Morrigan, sigh. "The Chantry, of course, has rites for the dead, and I assume so do the elves. The dwarves worship them - they say that when someone dies, their essence becomes part of the Stone around them. So I assume they have their religious rites as well."

Morrigan just raised an eyebrow. "Assuming things about The People is often dangerous," she chided. "Although you are correct in that they have rites for the dead. Those that have accepted the collar of the Alienage follow the ways of your Chantry, while the Dalish walk pathways that were old when your Maker was still in swaddling clothes."

Alistair shot her a foul look. "Can we do this without the sneering, Morrigan?" he asked. "It's a loaded topic." Not one he'd really had to deal with personally at any point, but still.

"I am making a historical point," Morrigan retorted. "Some methods are older than others, which shows that our concepts of respect for the dead evolve and change from time period to time period, not just between cultures." If she'd wished to 'sneer', she would have pointed out that bodies were just rotting sacks of meat. Honestly.

Oh, please. She was being all Morrigan about the topic - of course she was sneering. Alistair turned to the class - mostly to avoid starting another argument, no matter how badly he wanted to - and said, "How does your culture honor the dead?" he asked. "Does the practice stem out of practicality, religion, both, or something else?"
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If it was possible for Simon to look even paler than he usually did, it was happening right now. Maybe it was because he'd come to class pretty much straight from spending a couple of hours (or the entire weekend, from Fandom's perspective) in England, but...

The topic at hand made him chew on his lower lip and decide he really couldn't say anything to contribute to the discussion.

He missed Alisha and his friends.
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After a pleasant weekend, Raven wasn't happy to be reflecting on death. But she listened and took notes.
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"In my home, when Azar died, all of Azarath gathered around her to pay their respects as she drew her last breath," Raven said quietly. "She spoke her final wishes, then her spirit rose from her and stretched outward to the heavens. Her body faded as well."

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LIES. I CAN SEE YOU THERE.

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Morrigan was perfectly capable of being respectful of the dead! But the fact was there were no dead here to disrespect, and so a rational discussion of cultural observances and their origins was not remiss.

The Warden took things so personally.
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"So she could time her death that well?" Ben asked, looking interested.

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"She knew her body's time was nearly at an end," Raven said. "I do not know if it was precognition or merely being in tune with the strength of her physical form, but she summoned all of Azarath to be with her, and my mother and myself in particular."
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"The way Dad tells the story, Master Yoda knew his time was coming too. If that's something Jedi get taught, I haven't had that lesson yet," Ben replied.
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Mercy watched him with some concern and when she could find a moment to talk without getting them both in trouble she did. "Hey. You okay?"
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"There's usually some kind of service - either in the church or a memorial service - and then the body is either buried or cremated," Mercy said. "I guess the burying is kind of practical and if it's a church service it's religious, but sometimes it's just for those left behind to remember the persona nd get some closure."

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Simon glanced over at her, and swallowed before speaking. "Yes." Just... hesitating a lot before saying that, and gearing up to be very evasive. Other than that, he was fine! "I'm fine."

See?
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Mercy raised an eyebrow at him. "Must be some strange new definition of the word fine that I'm not familiar with," she said lightly.

She was quiet for a moment, waiting for another opportunity to speak, then said, "Do you maybe want to get together sometime later to... talk about how 'fine' you are? I know this probably isn't the best place."

For her to drag things out of him. Or at least attempt to.
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"Would you wish to know such a thing?" Raven had to wonder. "I suppose it would enable you to plan and make certain some things had been taken care of, but it would also cause a great deal of anxiety as the time approached."
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"I don't know," Ben said thoughtfully. "Dad never said Yoda seemed all that anxious about it. We're taught that there is no death--only the Force."

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Simon's quick smile was more than a little forced. "Everything's -- everything's okay," he claimed. "I don't need to talk about anything."

He didn't want to talk about anything. He didn't really want to think about it, either.

And he couldn't help looking a little apologetic about that.
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"Okay," she said, looking a little sad. "If that's the way you want to play it. But just know that I'm here if you ever do."
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"Azar's presence was still with me after her death," Raven said. "Part of her spirit was housed in the rings she gave me." She began to lift her hand to show him, then remembered she hadn't worn Azar's rings since her return to life and dropped her hand back to her lap.

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Simon gave a quick nod and failed even worse at smiling, then went back to paying attention to the lecture. He knew he'd probably crack at some point, and need to talk, but right now, he was going to keep it all private.

And somehow feel a little guilty about it. He'd deal. He was used to feeling that.

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Gah, sorry about the totally late tag-in. Working 8 hours on Monday makes me forget things like... it being Monday.

Ironically, I also got distracted by playing DA:O again.