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The Art of Pacifism; Tuesday, Fifth Period [ 01/11 ].

"Welcome back, my little ducklings ♥," Shunsui already had the desks moved away from the centre of the room, and was sitting there ready for them to settle into their circle. Mugs of hot cocoa, this time with slowly melting little mini-marshmallows, were already waiting for them as well. "Today, I wish to speak with you all about Mahavira ♥, ancient reformer of the Jainism religion, which prescribes its followers to take the path of nonviolence toward all living beings ♥. He was born as Prince Vardhaman in a place called Kundgraam ♥. Even in the womb, it is said, he brought wealth and prosperity to his kingdom, like the abundant bloom of beautiful flowers in the springtime ♥. He did not let his status as a prince allow him to fall into the spoils of royalty and privilege, adopting practises of meditation and self-contemplation even at a young age ♥. Still, it took him until the age of thirty to renounce his kingdom, release himself of worldly possessions and went into life as an ascetic ♥. That was twelve years spent mostly in meditation and dedicating himself to not harming a single person, animal, or plant ♥. He gave up all possessions, including..." Please, forgive Shunsui the eyebrow waggle, "clothing ♥. He earned his name of Mahavira and spent the rest of his life preaching the things he'd learned on his spiritual journey ♥. He attained the state of Nirvana at the age of 72 and 4 months."

Which was a blink of an eye to Shunsui, really, but he didn't have any intention of giving up worldy possessions anytime soon.



"Mahavira's philosophy contains eight principles, three metaphysical and five ethical, all intended to elevate the quality of life ♥. He believed that every soul," here, Shunsui could only smile slightly, "is held in bondage by karmic energy accumulated by either good or bad deeds. It is karmic delusion that cause us to seek out the supposed illusionary pleasure of material possessions, which are the root of violence, anger, greed, and other vices. To release oneself from the cycle of karma, one must take a path of right faith, right knowledge, and right conduct, and take five vows: nonviolence, truthfulness, non-stealing, chastity, and non-possession. Of these, the greatest is nonviolence. Chastity? Not so much, in my never so humble opinion ♥."

"Mahavira is notable as one of history's really strong first voices of nonviolence; Mahatma Gandhi himself suggested that if any one person practised the doctrine perfectly, it was Mahavira. And, in Jainism, the path of nonviolence, called Ahimsa, kindness and no harm to all. To the point where no creature, no matter how sickly or depraved, will be denied care, and Jain monks are said to cover their mouths to not swallow bugs and sweep the ground before they walk to avoid stepping on them. Violence, in Jainism, is not only violence against another, but it is violence against oneself. Causing violence prevents the soul from being liberated from the cycle of karma. All life has the right to live fearlessly to its full potential, and the protection of life is the most supreme charity a Jain can make ♥.

"Naturally, this dedication requires practisers of this religion to follow very strict rules of habitation, diet, sleep, and behaviour. Far too strict for me, I must admit ♥! Laymen, however, are granted a bit more leverage; they must simply vow never to kill without necessary purpose or determination. Tying up, injuring, mutilating, burdening with heavy load and depriving from food and drinks any animal or human being with a mind polluted by anger and other passions are definitely against the vows of Ahimsa ♥. They are strict vegetarians, are not allowed to participate in business that may cause violence to human beings, no furs, plumes, or silks. If leather is used, it must come from an animal that has died of natural causes. Food can only be eaten by day, as cooking at night may be harmful to insects. They will never leave an container of liquid open in case bugs stray in and will strain all liquids before drinking. Since they avoid occupations that involve injury, there is a high volume of Jain bankers and merchants.

"At the base of Ahimsa, of course, is intention. One must not be careless; if one is careless, then he has committed violence even if the living creature is alive or dead by the end. It is believed that an ever vigilant and careful man will not make the mistakes to keep him in the karmic bondage that violence creates."

And here, Shunsui quoted beatifically, "'“It is the intention that ultimately matters. From the real point of view, a man does not become a killer only because he has killed or because the world is crowded with souls, or remain innocent only because he has not killed physically. Even if a person does not actually kill, he becomes a killer if he has the intention to kill; while a doctor has to cause pain but is still non-violent and innocent because his intention is pure, for it is the intention which is the deciding factor, not the external act which is inconclusive.'"

"Furthermore, a small violence may bring serious consequences to one person, while to another person grievous violence may bring about lesser consequences. For instance, a person hunting and killing only one small animal suffers severe consequences while a person who is building a temple or hospital, suffers milder the karmic consequences even though such a building results in killing of many animals.

"Even when violence is jointly committed by two persons, the same act may result in severe consequence for one person and mild consequence for another person. This may happen in case where one person is the leader and planner of violence who binds severe karmas, while another who is simply a follower binds much lesser karmas.

"One who actually does not commit violence may be responsible for hiṃsā while one who actually commits violence is not responsible for hiṃsā. For instance, a burglar who fails in his robbery is still a felon but a diligent surgeon who is trying to save a patient is not responsible for violence even if a patient dies during the surgery.

"Persons who have not committed violence may become responsible for violence committed by others. This may happen when a violence which is carried out by someone is approved and instigated by someone else.

"It is the intention that ultimately matters. From the real point of view, a man does not become a killer only because he has killed or because the world is crowded with souls, or remain innocent only because he has not killed physically. Even if a person does not actually kill, he becomes a killer if he has the intention to kill; while a doctor has to cause pain but is still non-violent and innocent because his intention is pure, for it is the intention which is the deciding factor, not the external act which is inconclusive."



"One may claim, then, that a pacifism of the Jaina vein is a pacifist through the utmost awareness of his or her surroundings ♥. They are constantly vigilant on what actions might cause violence in even the slightest ways, and strive to avoid them. But enough talk from me ♥. It is now your turn ♥. Is the Jaina concept of Ahimsa a realistic or reachable goal? In which ways would you say it succeeds or fails ♥? No wrong answer, no strict order, just a discussion to consider all the variety of opinions that are sure to exist with such an ecclectic group ♥. Who wants to start ♥?"

[[ OCD on the way is up! ]]

[[ previous classes ]]
endsthegame: (problematic relationship with the world)

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[personal profile] endsthegame 2011-01-11 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
Andrew Wiggin
intraspective: (the flowers are taking over)

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[personal profile] intraspective 2011-01-11 11:43 am (UTC)(link)
Yamanaka Ino
trigons_child: (Interested)

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[personal profile] trigons_child 2011-01-11 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Raven
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[personal profile] stars_and_money 2011-01-11 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Jeremy Darling

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[identity profile] hotmugofstfu.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Blackagar Boltagon
life_inshadow: ([neu] looking into the distance)

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[personal profile] life_inshadow 2011-01-11 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Tara Maclay

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[identity profile] whateverknight.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Squall Leonhart

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[identity profile] knowsnokungfu.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Chuck Bartowski

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[identity profile] littlelionlad.livejournal.com 2011-01-12 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Anduin Wrynn
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[personal profile] ashockingbitch 2011-01-12 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
Jenny Sparks

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[identity profile] willbethenight.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
As Bruce took his normal detailed notes, he couldn't help but be amused by the name of Jainaism in relation to one of his other teachers. It even made him smirk a tiny bit.

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[identity profile] ancientbschamp.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
It was soothing! And the cocoa was nice, and -- oooh, teal deer.

Which didn't stop Gabrielle from listening in rapt attention.
intraspective: (wistful in big and small)

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[personal profile] intraspective 2011-01-11 11:58 am (UTC)(link)
Mmmm, now this lecture she didn't have any issues with other than the fact that, well, this way sounded hard.

Not even killing bugs?
endsthegame: (comic: emo eyes)

Re: Listen to the Lecture - AoP, 01/11.

[personal profile] endsthegame 2011-01-11 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
It is the intention that ultimately matters. From the real point of view, a man does not become a killer only because he has killed or because the world is crowded with souls, or remain innocent only because he has not killed physically. Even if a person does not actually kill, he becomes a killer if he has the intention to kill.

Ender jotted the statement down, feeling numb as he stared down at his notepad.
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[personal profile] trigons_child 2011-01-11 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Raven listened raptly, trying to cling to the words as a shield against her father.
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[personal profile] stars_and_money 2011-01-11 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
... Yeah. Jeremy, bless his heart, tried to follow the lecture, but that had never been his forte.

The cocoa was good and the little marshmallows were cute, though, and that was probably all he'd really remember later.

Re: Listen to the Lecture - AoP, 01/11.

[identity profile] hotmugofstfu.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Oddly enough, Blackagar had no experience with teal deer. Shocking, right?

But he soldiered on bravely through the lecture. Humans, he'd decided, had very, very strange beliefs.
life_inshadow: ([neu] concentrating)

Re: Listen to the Lecture - AoP, 01/11.

[personal profile] life_inshadow 2011-01-11 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The combination of the soothing voice and the hot chocolate had Tara not precisely drowsy, but definitely a little on the floaty side as she jotted down some notes. Was it really intent that mattered? If it was, did that make her a mass murderer of hamburgers and chicken fingers?

She'd have to think about this.

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[identity profile] littlelionlad.livejournal.com 2011-01-12 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Anduin was focusing on stirring his cocoa so he didn't let out any inappropriate laughter while he thought about his Aunt Jaina. She might have approved of the pacifism parts though.
Edited 2011-01-12 00:38 (UTC)
intraspective: (yeah whatever)

Re: Discussion : Jainaism - AoP, 01/11.

[personal profile] intraspective 2011-01-11 11:57 am (UTC)(link)
"I think," she offered, "that it would be a difficult approach in a lot of ways, but that depends too on how you were raised...?"

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[identity profile] whateverknight.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's unrealistic," Squall agreed. "Most people aren't going to be able to commit to it, even if they want to. People are weak."
intraspective: (gazing down thoughtfully)

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[personal profile] intraspective 2011-01-11 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Ino glanced at him, gaze curious. "Do you think it's entirely weakness? What if someone attacks someone they care about? I mean those are awful choices, aren't they, in that case? Do you fight back, or do you do nothing--or do you fling yourself in the way and you wind up bein' the dead one?"

Re: Discussion : Jainaism - AoP, 01/11.

[identity profile] whateverknight.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
"I fight back," Squall answered. "But if other people want to follow nonviolence or whatever, it's none of my business. They're the ones who are going to have to live with their choices."

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[identity profile] willbethenight.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
You horrible person.
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[identity profile] hotmugofstfu.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Liiiies.

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[identity profile] whateverknight.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay for writing! tldr -- now with HEARTS!


Something to note, though: I've known a few Jains here and there, and as far as they're concerned, "Jainism" is pronounced nothing like our dear Jaina's name. It sounds more like "giantism" (except without the T).

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[identity profile] whateverknight.livejournal.com 2011-01-12 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, the other half is the one that involves explosions.