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Ghanima Atreides ([personal profile] atreideslioness) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2009-03-30 08:09 am
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Mad Kings & Queens, Week XII [Monday, Period 4]

"I'm deviating from the syllabus again," Ghanima announced from her perch on her desk, legs kicking against its front lightly as the students filed in. "Mostly because I am quite bored with it right now."

"So instead of Anna I of Russia, we're going to skip to a different Anna; Anna of Saxony, a woman that was not very good at dealing with limits."


"Anna of Saxony was the only child and heiress of Maurice, Elector of Saxony, and Agnes, eldest daughter of Philip I, Landgrave of Hesse. She was the second wife of William the Silent."

"Anna was reputedly unattractive and lame, but her wealth drew many suitors. She accepted the suit of William I of Orange, and they were married on August 25, 1561. Her new husband, while thrilled about her dowry, soon discovered that Anna was unstable. Her unattractive combination of melancholic, aggressive, and suicidal tendencies, an excessive lack of financial restraint, and propensity towards very public adultery made her a liability of unprecedented scale.

"Anna's childhood had been troubled. By the age of eleven she had lost bother her parents and she grew up a lonely and self-indulged only child. She had a long line of mentally unstable relatives, and many of her uncles and cousins were said to have suffered from mental illnesses that ranged from severe depression to complete mental collapse."

"It's unsurprising, then, that Anna's behavior was distinctly unconventional from the early days of her marriage. Pregnancy apparently pushed her over the edge - most like a bout of what's currently known as postpartum depression - and it rendered her vulnerable to increasingly irrepressible emotional episodes. Political pressures and war in the Low Countries took William away from home, leaving Anna alone, and free to indulge her excessive boredom by partying wildly and then wallowing in despair, during which times she refused daylight, food, and visitors for days on end. The death of her first child in its early infancy, and two further pregnancies in rapid succession within the next two years only served to aggravated her psyche. Abandoning all conventions of modesty and motherhood, she overindulged in alcohol, neglected her children, and grew increasingly aggressive and suicidal."

"Events climaxed in 1564, when William decided to remove the children from her care for their safety. Anna at once withdrew herself from court and turned a deaf ear to her husband's pleas for frugality and respectability. While he was still off waging war, she began a very public campaign of her own, getting exceedingly inebriated, accusing him of sexual ineptitude, and living a life of outrageous and hedonistic excess. She wasn't just indiscreet with her lovers - she often conducted her affairs in public, without a care for who saw her," Ghanima said. "It's quite possible that Anna inspired some of the first public indecency laws. Nevertheless, William continued to write to her, pleading with her to regain some sense of decorum and return home. But his pleas for a more modest lifestyle were in vain. Always in public, Anna mocked his letters and tore them up."

"She took up with her lawyer, Jan Rubens, in 1570 and gave birth to their illegitimate daughter, Christina, on August 22, 1571. It was the final straw. News of this indiscretion reached her husband, who refused to acknowledge Christina as his own. Anna was sent to Beilstein castle along with Christina. Her behavior became ever more deranged, until the servants were ordered to keep all knives away from her, lest she attack someone. Anna began to suffer from hallucinations and violent outbursts. Christina was removed from her care and sent to be raised with her half-siblings. William annulled their marriage, and Anna lived out the rest of her days in Dresden, until her death aged thirty-two in 1577."


[Wait for the OCD up!]

Re: Activity: Spoiled or Suffering?

[identity profile] new-to-liirness.livejournal.com 2009-03-30 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Liir rubbed at his face and tried to look approachable, even though he'd rather have dental work done. Today's classes JUST DIDN'T LIKE HIM, apparently.

This icon, it is getting much use today.

Re: Activity: Spoiled or Suffering?

[identity profile] blackmagic-eve.livejournal.com 2009-03-30 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
"You look like you'd rather be anywhere but here," Eve said with a grin. "Wanna partner up?"

Re: Activity: Spoiled or Suffering?

[identity profile] new-to-liirness.livejournal.com 2009-03-30 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
He nodded quickly.

"Certainly.

"What's your thoughts on the, er, subject?"

Re: Activity: Spoiled or Suffering?

[identity profile] blackmagic-eve.livejournal.com 2009-03-30 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
"There's nothing wrong with spending to your heart's content if you can afford it," Eve said. "But at the same time, if it's causing problems for other people, then you probably need to sit down and have a nice little conversation with yourself."

Re: Activity: Spoiled or Suffering?

[identity profile] new-to-liirness.livejournal.com 2009-03-30 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"Especially since, well, it wasn't even making her happy. It all just seems so... so abysmally ridiculous."

He shook his head tiredly.

Re: Activity: Spoiled or Suffering?

[identity profile] blackmagic-eve.livejournal.com 2009-03-30 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
"She thought it was going to make her happy, though. And that whole postpartum depression thing is enough to drive a woman crazy in and of itself -- in fact, it does on occasion."

Re: Activity: Spoiled or Suffering?

[identity profile] new-to-liirness.livejournal.com 2009-03-30 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
"I... couldn't speak to that, but if something fails to make you happy the first, oh, few times, I should take that to mean it isn't working.

"Then again, you can't make some people happy no matter what you try, I suppose."

Re: Activity: Spoiled or Suffering?

[identity profile] blackmagic-eve.livejournal.com 2009-03-30 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
"Though when you're suffering from postpartum depression, you're not exactly thinking clearly. So I imagine it'd be easy for things to sort of spiral out of your control."

Re: Activity: Spoiled or Suffering?

[identity profile] new-to-liirness.livejournal.com 2009-03-30 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
"But at what point do you spiral into madness? I... I would think ignoring what others have to say, that's a good indication. Someone who thinks they're sick might look for help. The mad don't think they need any."

Re: Activity: Spoiled or Suffering?

[identity profile] blackmagic-eve.livejournal.com 2009-03-30 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'd call it at ignoring what others have to say when they say it repeatedly," Eve said after a moment's thought. "Because there's thinking people are idiots and wrong, there's being stubborn, and then there's heading towards madness."

Re: Activity: Spoiled or Suffering?

[identity profile] new-to-liirness.livejournal.com 2009-03-30 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
"Yes, I suppose you have a point there," though he was never really sure on these things. His own thought process wasn't exactly normal.

Re: Activity: Spoiled or Suffering?

[identity profile] blackmagic-eve.livejournal.com 2009-03-30 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"So... I'd say excessive ignoring people who have a point would be a good point towards madness." Eve frowned thoughtfully and wrote it down. "What else?"