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Anakin Skywalker ([personal profile] sith_happened) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2009-02-09 11:11 pm
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Ethics [Tuesday, February 10, 2nd period]

Anakin was in a very good mood this morning. Something about seeing old friends and a wife's ex-boyfriend transformed into a girl had cheered him right up.

"Today we talk about something called the Golden Rule, a concept which unites many separate religions on this planet," he began, leaning against his desk and stared around the classroom. "It sounds altruistic: 'do unto others as you would have done unto you', but there's a couple of logical flaws in it. What if you don't mind getting poked in the stomach? Does it follow that you could wander around aimlessly poking people? What if you don't see what's wrong with stealing? Or killing? Or hating entire groups of people on principle? If the practical application is supposed to be you randomly help people because they could be good, wouldn't the opposite be that you could randomly harm people because they might be evil?"

He shrugged. "I suppose the Golden Rule could be broken down to 'be nice to people, and they'll be nice to you' but out here in the real world, we all know it doesn't exactly work like that, and the concept could also be reinterpreted as 'it doesn't bother me, so why does it bother you?' Is this a case of aiming for an ideal and hoping that it will cause a ripple effect of positive things, or something overly simplistic that taken to its logical extreme renders itself useless? Has seeing it on everything from coffee mugs to tea towels made the very idea of it trite, or does it still have a place in the mind of someone trying to lead an ethical life?"
gobrookeyourself: (um wtf)

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[personal profile] gobrookeyourself 2009-02-10 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
"...It's on coffee mugs?" Brooke asked.
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[personal profile] future_sandworm 2009-02-10 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
Leto Atreides
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[personal profile] future_sandworm 2009-02-10 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
"The rule does not take into account differences of value or of position," Leto replied. "It expects two parties to be equal, which is hardly ever the case. Of course, one might extrapolate and expect everyone to enter the mindset of the other when determining the right action, but that is not inherent in the rule.
future_sandworm: (mischievous)

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[personal profile] future_sandworm 2009-02-10 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
Leto smirked. "Mugs?"
notahostage: (Mellowness *not* drug related)

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[personal profile] notahostage 2009-02-10 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
Wendy Watson

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[identity profile] cataclysmicluck.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Zayne Carrick

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[identity profile] cataclysmicluck.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Zayne was here, ready to be nice to everyone.

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[identity profile] joan-notjane.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Joan Girardi

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[identity profile] joan-notjane.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"Well, just because you don't mind getting poked doesn't mean you necessarily want people to poke you," Joan pointed out. "And if you don't want people to hurt you in case you're evil, then you shouldn't do that to them."

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[identity profile] joan-notjane.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
"I think it just makes it something you want to remember," Joan said. "Like the mug me and my brothers got my dad with our picture."

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[identity profile] elephantgadget.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Helen Haras-Uquara

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[identity profile] elephantgadget.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
"Not necessarily," Helen answered, though she couldn't see why anyone would make such a thing. "It could serve as a pleasnt reminder, I suppose."

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[identity profile] elephantgadget.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
"If you look at it that way they are certainly logical flaws. But the basic idea of being good to others seems quite basic," Helen said.

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[identity profile] repeterpetrelli.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Peter Petrelli

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[identity profile] repeterpetrelli.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
"Could depend on your feelings about mugs," Peter pointed out.
intraspective: (are you REALLY sure)

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[personal profile] intraspective 2009-02-10 03:06 pm (UTC)(link)
"People have feelings about mugs?"

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[identity profile] repeterpetrelli.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"If it was a sacred item versus something you throw away after you're done with your coffee," Peter explained.
intraspective: (daddy's warrior)

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[personal profile] intraspective 2009-02-10 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"I guess," she said, considering that, "but would people call a sacred item a mug?"

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[identity profile] sorella-vecchia.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Triela

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[identity profile] sorella-vecchia.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's a dumb rule."

Triela didn't feel the need to elaborate. It was, after all, obvious why, right?

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[identity profile] sorella-vecchia.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
"People put all sorts of moronic nonsense on mugs," Triela nodded with a roll of her eyes.

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[identity profile] repeterpetrelli.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
"Everyone's culture is different," Peter pointed out.
intraspective: (are you REALLY sure)

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[personal profile] intraspective 2009-02-10 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
"I know that," she said, because duh. "But if we're talking about the standard term for mug, I don't think there's anyone here who'd say they've got a sacred mug. They'd say, like, chalice or goblet or something. Mug is an everyday ordinary word."

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[identity profile] repeterpetrelli.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"Chalice and goblet used to be everyday words too," Peter pointed out.
intraspective: (nyah!)

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[personal profile] intraspective 2009-02-10 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
"I," a long pause, "did not know that."

See? She could be graceful about it.

"But still."

Or something.

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