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Ghanima Atreides ([personal profile] atreideslioness) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2009-02-08 10:29 pm
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Mad Kings & Queens, Week VI [Monday, Period 4]

"I'm sure many of you had very long, interesting weekends, which you want to either forget or tell all your friends about," Ghanima practically sang as class began. "This is not the time or place to do it. Welcome back, boys and girls. Please get out your notebooks and pencils, as it is time to learn. You can swap horror stories after class."


"Ivan IV Vasilyevich, or 'Ivan Gronzy' was the first ruler of Russia to call himself "Tsar" or Emeperor King," Ghanima said briskly. "His name is synonymous in the West with torture, cruelty, and paranoia. He established a bodyguard, the Oprichniki, which has been described as Russia's first secret police. Nevertheless, many people in Russia consider him a national hero."

"When Ivan was three, his father died, and his mother, Jelena Glinskaya, became regent until she was poisoned five yeras later by the nobles of the court. According to his own letters, Ivan and his younger brother Yuri, who was a deaf-mute, customarily felt neglected and offended by the mighty boyars from the Shuisky and Belsky families. They frequently went hungry, witnessed murders, and were subject to physical and verbal abuse."

"By the time Ivan was in his early teens, sources say that he was showing some signs of this abuse. Allegedly, his favorite pastime was throwing live animals from towers and watching them fall to their deaths. He tore feathers off live birds. He raped, robbed, and killed villagers for sport," Ghanima said. "Which was, to be honest, a time-honored tradition in the boyar families. Tormenting villagers, that is."

"Ivan was crowned the first Tsar when he was sixteen, and married soon afterwards. There was a national competition to find a bride, and virgins from all over the kingdom were assembled in the Kermlin for the event. He chose Anastasia Romonova, and according to all accounts it was a love-match on both sides," Ghanima mused fondly. "Anastasia tempered Ivan's outbursts, and they were very happy together."

"Despite calamities triggered by the Great Fire of 1547, the early part of his reign was one of peaceful reforms and modernization. Ivan revised the law code, known as the sudebnik, created a standing army, established the Zemsky Sobor or assembly of the land, a public, consensus-building assembly, the council of the nobles, and confirmed the position of the Church with the Council of the Hundred Chapters, which unified the rituals and ecclesiastical regulations of the entire country. He introduced the local self-management in rural regions, mainly in the Northeast of Russia, populated by the state peasantry. During his reign the first printing press was introduced to Russia."

"Other events of this period include the introduction of the first laws restricting the mobility of the peasants, which would eventually lead to serfdom, and change in Ivan's personality, traditionally linked to his near-fatal illness in 1553 and the death of his first wife, Anastasia Romanovna in 1560. Ivan suspected boyars of poisoning his wife and of plotting to replace him on the throne with his cousin, Vladimir of Staritsa. In addition, during that illness Ivan had asked the boyars to swear an oath of allegiance to his eldest son, an infant at the time. Many boyars refused, deeming the tsar's health too hopeless to survive. This angered Ivan and added to his distrust of the boyars. There followed brutal reprisals and assassinations, including those of Metropolitan Philip and Prince Alexander Gorbatyi-Shuisky."

"The 1565 formation of the Oprichnina was also significant. The Oprichnina was the section of Russia directly ruled by Ivan and policed by his personal servicemen, the Oprichniki. This system of Oprichnina has been viewed by some historians as a tool against the omnipotent hereditary nobility of Russia who opposed the absolutist drive of the tsar, while others have interpreted it as a sign of the paranoia and mental deterioration of Ivan."

"The later half of Ivan's reign was far less successful. Although Khan Devlet I Giray of Crimea repeatedly devastated the Moscow region and even set Moscow on fire in 1571, the Tsar supported Yermak's conquest of Tatar Siberia, adopting a policy of empire-building, which led him to launch a victorious war of seaward expansion to the west, only to find himself fighting the Swedes, Lithuanians, Poles, and the Livonian Teutonic Knights."

"For twenty-four years the Livonian War dragged on, damaging the Russian economy and military and failing to gain any territory for Russia. In the 1560s the combination of drought and famine, Polish-Lithuanian raids, Tatar invasions, and the sea-trading blockade carried out by the Swedes, Poles and the Hanseatic League devastated Russia. The price of grain increased by a factor of ten. Epidemics of the plague killed 10,000 in Novgorod. In 1570 the plague killed 600-1000 in Moscow daily. One of Ivan's advisors, Prince Andrei Kurbsky, defected to the Lithuanians, headed the Lithuanian troops and devastated the Russian region of Velikiye Luki. This treachery deeply hurt Ivan. As it continued, Ivan became mentally unstable and physically disabled. In one week, he could easily pass from the most depraved orgies to anguished prayers and fasting in a remote northern monastery."

"Because he gradually grew unbalanced and violent, the Oprichniks under Malyuta Skuratov soon got out of hand and became murderous thugs. They massacred nobles and peasants, and conscripted men to fight the war in Livonia. Depopulation and famine ensued. What had been by far the richest area of Russia became the poorest. In a dispute with the wealthy city of Novgorod, Ivan reportedly ordered the Oprichniks to murder inhabitants of this city, which was never to regain its former prosperity. His followers burned and pillaged the city and villages, and as many as 5,000 might have been killed during the infamous Massacre of Novgorod in 1570."

"Although it is thought rumored that Ivan died while setting up a chess board, it is more likely that he died while playing chess with Bogdan Belsky on March 18, 1584. When Ivan's tomb was opened during renovations in the 1960s, his remains were examined and discovered to contain very high amounts of mercury, indicating a high probability that he was poisoned. Modern suspicion falls on his advisors Belsky and Boris Godunov, who became tsar in 1598. Three days earlier, Ivan had allegedly attempted to rape Irina, Godunov's sister and Feodor's wife. Her cries attracted Godunov and Belsky to the noise, whereupon Ivan let Irina go, but Belsky and Godunov considered themselves marked for death. The tradition says that they either poisoned or strangled Ivan in fear for their own lives. Upon Ivan's death, the ravaged kingdom was left to his unfit and childless son Feodor."

"Ivan's long reign saw the conquest of the Khanates of Kazan, Astrakhan, and Siberia, transforming Russia into a multiethnic and multiconfessional state spanning almost 1 billion acres, growing during his term at a rate of approximately 50 square miles a day. It's an astounding accomplishment, especially considering adversity he faced."

"Interestingly enough, the English word terrible is usually used to translate the Russian word grozny in Ivan's nickname, but the modern English usage of terrible, with a pejorative connotation of bad or evil, does not precisely represent the intended meaning. Grozny's meaning is closer to the original usage of terrible—inspiring fear or terror, dangerous," Ghanima wrote on the board. "Formidable, threatening, or awesome. Perhaps a translation closer to the intended sense would be Ivan the Fearsome, or Ivan the Formidable." She tapped her chalk against the wall, and turned to smile at them. "Somehow, Ivan the Awesome does not quite inspire the same fear as 'Terrible' does."

[OOC: Please wait for the OCD has arrived.  Go forth!]
momslilassassin: (Ben: brooding is a family thing)

Re: Discussion: Terrible or Awesome?

[personal profile] momslilassassin 2009-02-09 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
"How can you be proud of something terrible?" Ben asked.

Re: Discussion: Terrible or Awesome?

[identity profile] new-to-liirness.livejournal.com 2009-02-09 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
"Because it was still yours. And even terrible things can be miracles, if they're fantastic enough."
momslilassassin: (Ben: focused)

Re: Discussion: Terrible or Awesome?

[personal profile] momslilassassin 2009-02-09 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
"That doesn't make any sense," Ben decided. "I can't imagine the people involved with massacring thousands of innocents were high-fiving each other over how efficient they were. Terrible things are terrible things, and miracles don't exist."

Re: Discussion: Terrible or Awesome?

[identity profile] new-to-liirness.livejournal.com 2009-02-09 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"When have people ever made any sense?" he pointed out in reply. "And yes, of course they were. Because for whatever reason it was, at least some of them thought they were doing the right thing."

He wouldn't speak to miracles. He wasn't quite sure about them himself. At the moment, he thought he believed in them, but only in regards to people who weren't him.

"Terrible things are no less terrible up close, far away... but depending on who you are and where you stand, they can be other things as well."
momslilassassin: (Ben: stompy boots)

Re: Discussion: Terrible or Awesome?

[personal profile] momslilassassin 2009-02-09 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Ben's jaw clenched. He had never been a fan of truth from a certain point of view. Being Obi-Wan for a weekend hadn't changed that. "When you're doing something wrong, you know you're doing something wrong. You can twist yourself into all sort of logical gymnastics to hide the truth from yourself, but you still know it's wrong. Us before them, killing one to save many, 'I was only following orders,' it's all poodoo. It's just a way to convince yourself that you're still a good person, even when you're not."

Re: Discussion: Terrible or Awesome?

[identity profile] new-to-liirness.livejournal.com 2009-02-09 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
"You know you're doing something that isn't right," and there was a difference between the two, he thought, "but you can convince yourself enough to do it by all those things you just said and when it comes right down to it, if you do it, you've done it. Those excuses did their job.

"It's not good, it's not right, it's not comfortable, but it's true. You know it's wrong... for other people, but for you, in that moment, you believe that you're doing the right thing for you at that moment.

"Belief and truth are different things, but one shapes history as much as the other."
momslilassassin: (Ben: eye closeup)

Re: Discussion: Terrible or Awesome?

[personal profile] momslilassassin 2009-02-09 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
"That's crap," Ben said flatly. "I've done stupid, terrible, wrong things, but I don't pretend--to myself, or to anyone else--that they were for the greater good. I was being selfish and so I made bad decisions. Doing bad things because you think you have greater clarity than everyone else--because no one else understands what you see, can make the sacrifices you can make--is how you turn evil."

And for Ben, that was as true as the sun rising every morning.

Re: Discussion: Terrible or Awesome?

[identity profile] new-to-liirness.livejournal.com 2009-02-09 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
"Then you're more honest with yourself than most people are," he said matter-of-factly.

"But the fact remains that at the time that you made them, you thought you were making good decisions. Or at least better-than-the-worst decision, otherwise I doubt you would have made them."

The last got a hard look.

"Saints and sinners both stand alone. It's others who decides which is which and nothing more."
momslilassassin: (Ben: wow. you're dumb.)

Re: Discussion: Terrible or Awesome?

[personal profile] momslilassassin 2009-02-09 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Ben glared back. There was a limit to his honesty: he wouldn't be explaining any decisions he made to the class.

"What others decide means absolutely nothing," he said. "My father has gone back and forth in the public eye between being a hero and a scapegoat more times than I can count. It doesn't change who he is, just the relative stupidity of the political climate at the time."

Re: Discussion: Terrible or Awesome?

[identity profile] new-to-liirness.livejournal.com 2009-02-09 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)
"Which is what we're discussing," he reminded him, his own parental issues at the forefront of his mind.

"My previous employer wanted nothing but to help those who'd been imprisoned, murdered, had their rights taken away and she was painted as a dangerous and Wicked Witch with plans to doom all of Oz. When she died, there were parades in the streets but the rest of us who knew better did our best to mourn her because we knew it was horsepie.

"Whatever Ivan was," and that took a swallow, to bring things back on subject, "is not what we're discussing because we don't know. All we have is public opinion and history. Which to me comes down to the fact that he was a human being in a leadership position so he could have been anything."