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Literature, Class 4: Period 3, Thursday, September 25

Miss Elizabeth Bennet did not recognize most of the students in her classroom. Clearly, Fandom was amusing itself at her expense once more. Very well; if they believed they belonged here, she would treat them accordingly.

"Today," she said, "our topic is going to be how identity changes a work, both from the author's perspective as well as readers. There is now a formal critical theory known as 'reader response;' it concerns how one's perceptions and background may alter fundamental aspects of the text, or lend new shades of meaning to it. Critics argue that the text is objective, not subjective -- that it can be seen on its own merits, and how the reader interprets it is secondary. I am not so certain that I agree. Who would the impartial reader be, who can separate his or her background from the text? If I feel the heroine in this novel is sweet, and you find her to be false and cloying, which of us is right? Or can we perhaps agree that the novelist's aim is for her to be seen as sweet, and unprepossessing, and leave it undetermined whether it succeeds?"

"Let us presume that people can be broken into certain categories: one's sex, one's age, one's social standing, one's culture, one's economic status. Add a layer to this: one's experiences. If you are a young boy who was raised on a farm, and had a favourite horse, then a story about horse-racing might be terribly exciting, to you. An older gentleman who was an experienced jockey might likewise reach for the tale, eagerly, while a wealthy society matron may feel that horses are uninteresting. A girl whose uncle lost a great deal of money on horse-racing may dislike the tale most of all."

She shrugged. "It sounds fascinating, but people aren't that simple. They never have been. The young boy from the farm may feel that forcing the horse to compete in a race is ridiculous, when it could be pulling a carriage or a plough. The experienced jockey may be tired of that life, or may find the story to be highly inaccurate as regards his own experiences. The wealthy society matron might find herself drawn in by a world the likes of which she's never imagined, and the girl may wish to understand what it was that held such lure for her uncle's path to ruin."

"I am not meaning to imply that identity studies, or reader-responses, are this simplistic. They most certainly aren't. My brief example of the horse-racing story was simply to show that what appeals to us in a work is intrinsic to who we are as individuals. Perhaps the reason I find that heroine so sweet is that she reminds me greatly of my sister Jane, whereas you have never known someone who behaves in that manner, and you cannot suspend your disbelief accordingly. You might further argue that the heroine is only hoping to appear sweet, and is secretly scheming and plotting her way through life, falling back on her presumption of innocence when all else fails. Deconstructionists might argue that to be an equally valid reading of the novel, even if the author never intended it. Do you agree? There are critics who believe that Tolkien's King of the Bracelets was an allegory for an ongoing war, in his country at that time, regardless of the times that Tolkien himself denied it. Could he have written it as an unconscious allegory? Might one say that it functions as one, if the author did not intend for it to be so? Are alternate readings of a text valid, or are they simply illustrative of the ways in which we are fundamentally different in worldviews and perceptions -- an interesting literary exercise, but nothing more?"

She stopped pacing, glancing around the room again. "The author must have his or her share in this -- mostly his, I fear, for the works considered to be 'classics' were largely those written by wealthy English and European men. Which suggests that either women and men from other cultural backgrounds simply weren't writing as much as Anglican men, that their works were clearly inferior on an objective scale, or that those responsible for identifying 'classics' were by and large the same creatures, Anglican men, who responded largely to works written from similar perspectives. This is a rather telling point for the response crowd, I might add, but let us continue. A man writes of actions which would be seen as normal and unremarkable during his lifetime, and seems to condone them; later, history condemns those same behaviors, as well as his tale. Should we view the story through his lens, or ours? Lest you think this is strictly hypothetical, I regret to inform you that Shakespeare himself wrote a play which seems highly anti-Semitic, which would not be wholly remarkable in society at that time. Critics argue that you might read the character sympathetically, or even that Shakespeare himself intended to portray him as such, but certain aspects of the play make either reading -- slanderous or sympathetic -- difficult. If he did not, what then? The situation is problematical, to say the least."

(OOC: Yes, Miss Bennet is still Miss Bennet, and no, she doesn't know about today's genderswap yet. Feel free to break her brain.)

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[personal profile] raspberryturk 2008-09-25 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
Reno had pulled on one of his t-shirts with the crude slang on them, today. And then he'd pulled on his jacket, and zipped it as far up as his new ... accessories would allow.

And now he was attempting, once again, to hide as far under his desk as possible without it being too terribly obvious that he was attempting to hide under his freaking desk.

Re: During the Lecture [LIT-4]

[identity profile] rebelheartalien.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
Michael refused to wear girl clothes, even now, so he was slouched at his desk in jeans and a T-shirt, trying to pretend nothing was unusual.
withoutverona: (girl!Romeo - Natalie)

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[personal profile] withoutverona 2008-09-25 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Romeo was wearing a white shirt unbuttoned as far as he dared -- if he had new assets, best to show them off -- and black pants that now fit loosely. Left arm still in a sling, he was briskly taking notes with his right hand.

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[identity profile] pyroliz.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 12:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Liz was trying hard to stay focused and take notes with some success, she was kind of relieved that it wasn't just her that this had happened to.

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[identity profile] gameknowsgame.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Blair looked around at her classmates and wondered when she ended up in Bizarro World.

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[identity profile] darkangelsawyer.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Peyton was wearing the only clothes that had some close to fitting. A pair of sweats that had been really big on her before and now were much closer to form-fitting and a formerly oversized sweatshirt.

She was not particularly happy.

Re: During the Lecture [LIT-4]

[identity profile] senor-chado.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Talking about identity and literature today. Chad looked around, wondering if he was the only seeing the irony in this.

Maybe not irony. There was some term for it, though, he was pretty sure.
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Re: During the Lecture [LIT-4]

[identity profile] new-to-liirness.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Liir was wearing his usual clothes which, for today, was a simple black shirt and black pants and while he made no secret of who he might be since he still had his broom with him as well as his pack, he wasn't exactly explaining otherwise.

There was class. To focus on. Yes. Right.

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[identity profile] bad-nose-job.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Penelope hadn't had time to find new clothes to wear, so in her dress that simply looked terribly awkward, she came to class and if it wasn't for her nose making her feel pretty, she'd flail about her otherwise girly clothes. After all, bare legs and feet were an odd thing to see in a classroom setting.

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[identity profile] morpherboy.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Marco was trying not to fall asleep again, but it was a bit harder than usual due to the ill-fitting clothes.
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[identity profile] death-of-hope.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Anemone was having far too much fun checking out her 'new' classmates and drawing their pictures in her notebook. Sometimes she really loved this school.

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[identity profile] sarcasm-guy.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Sokka took notes, although he was somewhat distracted by looking around at all his classmates and pouting.
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[personal profile] gobrookeyourself 2008-09-25 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Brooke had been hiding in the back of the class. However, looking around, she decided she was pretty damn hot and sat up a little straighter.

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[identity profile] mrodneymckay.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Rodney hadn't been paying much attention as he was still trying to get used to... everything. He did perk up at the mention of Tolkien, though.

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[identity profile] first-guardian.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Ichigo had just stumbled out of bed, so he was fairly clueless as to any strangeness going on. Actually, he hardly seemed to notice anything wrong.

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[identity profile] noboynextdoor.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
After seeing Buffy and Sam, Jess wasn't completely surprised that he didn't recognize most of his classmates, but it was still weird to see how widespread the crazy had become.

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Re: Discussion #1: Reader Response and Identity [LIT-4]

[identity profile] rebelheartalien.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
"Of course they are. Most people aren't going to like everything."
withoutverona: (girl!Romeo - Natalie)

Re: Discussion #2: Fluidity of the Text [LIT-4]

[personal profile] withoutverona 2008-09-25 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
"There may be an objective text, but to access it you need to remove your own prism and put yourself in the mind of the writer," Romeo argued. "If you cannot do that, you need to admit to your own biases in discussing the work."

Re: Discussion #3: Works Outside of Their Cultural Backgrounds [LIT-4]

[identity profile] senor-chado.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
"Should either be correct?" Chad wondered, in a way that he wasn't sure if he'd meant to say it out loud or not. "The context of a work is just as interesting as the piece itself. Sometimes even more. Why get rid of that?"

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[identity profile] thankgoditsme.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
Friday was still recognisable, and he was terribly grateful for that.