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Anakin Skywalker ([personal profile] sith_happened) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2008-01-23 11:05 pm
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Ethics [Thursday, January 24]

When the students came into the classroom, they found Anakin scrawling a quote on the board:

In general, pride is at the bottom of all great mistakes.”--John Ruskin


He turned around with an eyebrow raised. "Is Master Ruskin correct? How about Master Lao Tzu? He said: 'Pride attaches undue importance to the superiority of one's status in the eyes of others; and shame is fear of humiliation at one's inferior status in the estimation of others. When one sets his heart on being highly esteemed, and achieves such rating, then he is automatically involved in fear of losing his status.'"

He began pacing around the room. "Does pride always go before a fall? Do we have to be humiliated before we can learn? How high do the stakes have to be before we'll admit we've made a mistake, or have been fooled?"

"In order to deal ethically with other people, we need to acknowledge this very human flaw in ourselves and others. We want to believe that we are different, better than everyone around us." His gaze sharpened. "We're not. Everything is connected. You, me, the desks, the rocks outside, the deer in the preserve, the annoying person in the dorm who plays their music too loudly. Take pride in being yourself, certainly," he concluded. "But don't for a moment believe that who you are makes you more than the person sitting next to you. Because that kind of pride is where you make your first mistake."

Comfortably Numb - Pink Floyd
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Jenny Sparks
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[identity profile] vkandis-son.livejournal.com 2008-01-24 09:54 am (UTC)(link)
Karal Austreben

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[identity profile] vkandis-son.livejournal.com 2008-01-24 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
Karal wasn't taking notes, he was watching Anakin, listening intently.

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[identity profile] vkandis-son.livejournal.com 2008-01-24 11:36 am (UTC)(link)
"No," Karal said, slowly shaking his head. "We learn every day, whether we realise it or not, we take in knowledge and experience." He was deeply puzzled by the question. In his mind, the two had nothing to do with each other.

"If we failed to learn after getting something so wrong that we were humiliated by our failure - and it would have to be our failure, not that of others by failing in their duty to teach us - then that would be a terrible waste. But it's not a requirement."

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[identity profile] vkandis-son.livejournal.com 2008-01-24 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
Karal frowned. "There is no shame in admitting a mistake, and everyone can be fooled by someone, no matter how smart or clever they are," he said slowly. "So speaking for myself, there need not be any stakes at all."
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Jo Harvelle
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Jo was there!

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[identity profile] minnesota-teen.livejournal.com 2008-01-24 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Amber Atkins

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[identity profile] minnesota-teen.livejournal.com 2008-01-24 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Amber was also watching Master Skywalker, listening intently and taking notes.

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Mel Fray

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[identity profile] cantjossme.livejournal.com 2008-01-24 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
"No," Mel challenged. "It's not always pride. Massive stupidity and then having your ass handed to you usually does a pretty good job of it as well."

Re: Answer discussion question #2!

[identity profile] cantjossme.livejournal.com 2008-01-24 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
"Depends on how many rutting times you've been through the mill," Mel replied. "Hopefully the first time someone smacks you in the face you learn from it."

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[identity profile] minnesota-teen.livejournal.com 2008-01-24 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
"No," Amber said. "I don't understand why we would. Unless," she knitted her brows, "we have set ourselves so high up on a pedestal that when we do crash, it's almost devastatin' and we're humiliated because of it. I would think though, someone like that? Would have a difficult time recognizin' their humiliation for what it was and instead blame it on anyone besides themselves."

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[identity profile] minnesota-teen.livejournal.com 2008-01-24 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)
"There doesn't have to be any stakes at all," Amber answered. "For me anyways. Hopefully I will know when I've made a mistake, take it to heart, and try to make it better or correct it. Bein' fooled is somethin' entirely different."

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Lana Lang

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Lana listened intently and took very good notes.

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[identity profile] lovelylana.livejournal.com 2008-01-24 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"No," Lana said quietly. "You don't have to. Not if you pay attention and listen to what you're being told. But sometimes we just don't."

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