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Debating, Friday November 2
Chuck glared at the kids sitting in front of him.
“Why aren’t you supporting our country? You’re all sitting around enjoying public education, ignoring everything outside of your middle-class bubbles, when you could be sneaking off to be underage recruits for the army.” He gave them all a derisive look. “You kids and thinking all of you should have public education. Goods across the board like that? That’s not democratic. That’s communist. You, kids, are communist.”
Chuck went to the board and wrote “False dilemma.”
“Something we’ve been working on in class this semester is simplification. You need to simplify your arguments down to the bare bones, and not let any silly little facts get in your way. Narrow down exactly what is wrong with the opposing side, be it the argument, the result of their argument, or the person themself. Figure out just how awful it could be, and stick to it. Above all else, do not let them convince you that there are shades of gray. That’s where the dilemma comes into play. There’s no way of compromising here, no way you’ll let them off the hook with any of their flaws. There is only their horrible option, or your straight-up, excellent one.”
He clapped his hands. “Pair up, and get to it!”
[OOC:Just a minute... We now return you to your regularly scheduled deathmatches.]
“Why aren’t you supporting our country? You’re all sitting around enjoying public education, ignoring everything outside of your middle-class bubbles, when you could be sneaking off to be underage recruits for the army.” He gave them all a derisive look. “You kids and thinking all of you should have public education. Goods across the board like that? That’s not democratic. That’s communist. You, kids, are communist.”
Chuck went to the board and wrote “False dilemma.”
“Something we’ve been working on in class this semester is simplification. You need to simplify your arguments down to the bare bones, and not let any silly little facts get in your way. Narrow down exactly what is wrong with the opposing side, be it the argument, the result of their argument, or the person themself. Figure out just how awful it could be, and stick to it. Above all else, do not let them convince you that there are shades of gray. That’s where the dilemma comes into play. There’s no way of compromising here, no way you’ll let them off the hook with any of their flaws. There is only their horrible option, or your straight-up, excellent one.”
He clapped his hands. “Pair up, and get to it!”
[OOC:

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Again.
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She nodded to the chicken who was peeping on her desk.
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"I'm not a chicken," she said carefully. "Valentine is. We were just talking and suddenly, he was a chicken. Apparently, it happens here a lot?"
Chickentine sniffed curiously in Jeff's direction and fluffed himself up. This boy seemed very strange. Chickentine approved.
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He looked really earnest about it.
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She tried to smile cheerfully and not make any sudden movements.
And she tried desperately to think of something to say that wouldn't make things even worse.
"Have you ever been a chicken?"
... So much for that.
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He groped for something sane to say. Something natural. Something rational.
"I'm really more of an otter," he replied.
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No. She had no idea what they were talking about. She sort of hoped he did.
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"How ... lucky for you!" she managed. "That you have a mother with ... such ... powerful jaws! I haven't got one. A mother, I mean. Because of not being real and all."
It was astonishing how quickly this was going downhill, considering that she hadn't realized that it could get any worse.
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It was just impossible to find any sane way to continue this conversation, but he was going to try anyway. "You could have my mother! The jaws are really... ... impressive, you know. Jaws. On mothers. Not that she's actually a lion, I'm certain that was just my imagination."
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Dear heaven, it was contagious, wasn't it?
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Alas, she would have to do without the warning.
"Honestly I wouldn't mind, you know," Jeff babbled, "I mean, mothers, eh? Easy come, easy go."
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Her head was starting to hurt.
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"... Exactly!" he declared, groping around for another topic of conversation. "Like... fruit!"
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"I don't understand," she said. "What about them?"
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