ext_150768 ([identity profile] principalconnor.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2005-09-28 10:38 am

Study Hall -- Wednesday, September 28th

Welcome to Wednesday's study hall. I'm in a considerably better mood than yesterday, which mostly means none of you will be getting set on fire today. I reserve the right to threaten you with it, though. You have no fucking idea how entertaining the looks on your faces are when I do that.

*grins wickedly and takes a drag off her cigarette*

The announcements for today --

-- Biff is missing once again from the front of the teachers lounge. If somebody could find that stupid goddamn bear and drag it back, I'd appreciate it. (I won't be rettaching any limbs you might lose, though. That's your fucking problem, not mine.)

-- After the events of last weekend, I'm thinking of lifting the weapons ban. I'll be opening up a discussion section in the comments for those opposed and those for the weapons ban to hash out any differences they might have, any requests they might have for licensing or policing those who wish to carry their weapons, and any other problems they might wish to discuss.

-- Parents Weekend will take place on October 28th, 29th, and 30th. For the record, you may make one new RPG journal for whichever parent, guardian, relation, or mortal enemy you might wish to bring in for your character. These characters cannot already be enrolled in the school or exist in town, and if you can find someone not already involved in the game to play them just for that weekend, all the better. However, these characters will not be allowed posting access on FH or any related communities, they will only be allowed to comment in designated threads -- open houses for classes, the Halloween dance, etc. They're only here to visit for one weekend, folks -- they won't be hanging in the dorms or taking classes or anything. Also, teachers will be allowed to call parent/teacher conferences with any of their students they might wish to meet with (or any "parent" they might wish to interview ... *snerk*).

(OOC: Also, for the record, I'm not playing John Connor anymore -- I've passed him off to someone else. Now he can get a little more play, the poor antisocial bastard. :))

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] names-ash.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
::pulls out his clipboard::

You got a list of people in this "We"? Just for the record, I mean. And can you specifically state what sort of measures you've taken to make sure you can't hurt anyone?

Not trying to be skeptical, but seeing as last I heard you were the one around here with the ability to turn into a giant window-smashing snake, I just want to make sure you and this "we" are as "peace-bonded" as you say. For the record.

::looks at 'Duce, calmly, pen poised to write::

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] medusae-x.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Duce points to her hair, "They're sentient, their consciousness is bonded with us. We don't speak for the other non-natural students."

She also points to her glasses. Closing her eyes, she takes them off and displays the lenses for Ash. They are completely opaque - she couldn't see through them if she wanted to. Placing them back on, she comments, "Want a list?" She ticks off on her fingers, "We're venemous. We've made sure the school is supplied with antivenom in case an accident does happen. We can turn people to stone with our gaze. We've got glasses to prevent that, and since we can move significantly faster than a nat, no-one's going to be able to get them off our face before we can get our eyes closed. We can turn into a really big lamia. The one and only time we have done that was to help people get out of a flooded library. In that form, we're pretty goddamn distinctive.

We were also informed before we enrolled that if we used any of our non-natural powers to get into any sort of mischief, the Principal would go to great lengths to find out just how much pain an immortal could withstand. Our safeguards were checked over before we were enrolled, or we wouldn't have been enrolled.

Frankly, unless all you people with weapons are willing to go through at least as many safety precautions as we have to, it's a bad idea to lift the ban."

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] oatmanspatient.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Marty butts in again.

"In the past two weeks, there was a werewolf attack on a student that ended up in the clinic. Obviously not everyone with 'special abilities' has taken the same percaution as you have. That's not to say that everyone who owns a gun or a sword is as responsible as you have been. I've been guilty of waving a gun around myself, however I was caught and am now being punished."

"I think what everyone is trying to say here is that we are all responsible for our conduct on school grounds and if we violate that responsibility by harming another student, that student should lose the right to carry any kind of weapon."

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] cameronmitchell.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Frankly, unless all you people with weapons are willing to go through at least as many safety precautions as we have to, it's a bad idea to lift the ban.

Aren't we saying just that?

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] names-ash.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
::scribbles down notes::

Alright, you've got valid points. But here's the thing... No one's saying that these weapons are gonna be used on fellow students. These are self-defense measures, given we've had to deal with Zombies, Werewolves, Gremlins, heck, I even heard something about Tentacle Demons.

If you were attacked, you could easily remove these measures you have in order to defend yourself. A normal, unarmed student will be very lucky to get out unharmed, baby.

You want to talk safety measures? Gun locks. Safety caches. Proper, visible holsters. Nobody'll be hiding anything. And everyone will require certification on anything they want to carry. We're talking proper measures here, not a willy-nilly let everyone carrying a weapon plan, just so we're clear.

Thanks for the info. ::nods, and turns to another student::

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] cameronmitchell.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Couldn't have said it better myself, sir.

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] medusae-x.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
"Right, but so far, nobody's come up with a concrete, viable plan for weapons safety. Again: Nobody's defined weapons, safety measures, lock plans, etc. We'd like to see all that in place /first/ before the ban is lifted. Also, we'd want to see other safety measures acted upon, like dorm patrols to bust the copious amounts of drinking - or something stating that there's a weapons ban at parties or open invite events. So far, none of that has even been discussed, much less put in place. There've been vague murmurrings of 'some sort of certification' 'some sort of safety training' - and we're fine with that. However, lifting the ban before that's in place would be counter productive.

We'd also point out that nobody's commented on the unarmed training thing. Guns and blades won't help against most enemies. Better yet? Work out training with some of the non-natural students to learn defensive measures against them. Granted, we can't teach anyone how to not get turned into stone, however, we could teach counterpoisons and antivenom measures, and first aid for what to do if you're bitten or stung by a poisonous insect, reptile, or monster. Until today, noone's asked us what we can do, and even then, noone asked what they could do to prevent or stop it.

We're not saying don't ever let the students have their weapons. We're saying that -right now- it's not a very good idea. Get your training in place, get the safety measures in place, show the rest of us that you're willing to be responsible with it just like we had to do and hey, you won't hear any more objections from us."

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] cameronmitchell.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you weren't listening to coach Ash then as he's taking initiative on the whole thing. Dorm patrols against alcohol? Don't you think you're going a bit far there? We're discussing weapons here, not putting everyone on a dry spell.

I'm all in favour of those classes. Sounds like a good idea to me. And I'm sorry, but that wasn't how your argument came over. *shrugs*

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] medusae-x.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
"We're listening. What we're saying is get all that in place, then drop the ban. And we don't know about you, but we sure as hell aren't happy with the thought of people with weapons getting blotto."

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] cameronmitchell.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
*shakes his head* Let's just keep it to one argument? People are already unhappy with losing their weapons, I don't think anyone is going to be happy if you're going to tackle alcohol on top of this.

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] medusae-x.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
"We're not. They can have their alcohol, or they can have their weapons. We're against them having both at the same time."

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] cameronmitchell.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously, dude, that's bull. It's not because you drink a beer that you're going to get drunk. It's not because you're drunk that you're going to get out a weapon and shoot someone. If someone responsible gets drunk, chances are very likely they'll suddenly go shoot you because of it. Most likely they'll start singing love songs or something stupid like that. And even if they would go that far, by that time they'd have to be so damn wasted they wouldn't be able to open the weapons locker their gun is in.

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] medusae-x.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"Then they can drink with their weapons in the privacy of their own room. We don't think it's appropriate or safe to have it at parties or open-invite events. Please go look up the amount of gun or blade accidents and injuries that are directly alcohol related per week before you try to make this argument. We have looked at them. That's why we made the arguement. The chances of an accident or a misfire increase exponentially when alcohol becomes involved. Judgement becomes impaired."

((ooc: Btw, you mistyped. 'If someone responsible gets drunk, chances are very likely they'll suddenly go shoot you because of it' - assuming it was supposed to be "aren't very likely"))

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] cameronmitchell.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
You were talking about dorm patrols which made me conclude you were talking about drinking inside the dorms and the rooms. I can understand it during parties.

((*snorts* Typical. Yeah, that's what I meant. Sorry for the confusion.))

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] medusae-x.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"Actually, that was the counterarguement on how effective Rover's patrolling is. Sorry for misstating. We should've been clearer on that."

(('sall good :) ))

Re: Weapons Ban

[identity profile] cameronmitchell.livejournal.com 2005-09-28 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Right, gotcha. Nah, I can agree with that.