ext_31317 ([identity profile] tricksy-spy.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2007-01-16 10:40 am
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Revolutions: Week 2 Period 5

When the students came into the classroom, Aly was writing a list of criteria on the whiteboard at the front of the class.  She finished up the last point, flipped it around, and turned around to watch everyone find seats. 

"Good afternoon, all," she said with a bit of a grin as she seated herself on the top of her desk.  "Last week we talked about the reasons why you personally would rebel against a government.  What I'd like you to do today is to get together in small groups - two or three - and agree within the group and why you - as a group - would rebel against something.  You can determine what you're rebelling against.  Revolutions aren't put together by one person.  It's always a group effort.  So today, let's start that."  She glanced at the avowed monarchists in the class.  "And you have to decide on some criteria.  Saying it is never appropriate won't fly today."

Aly stood up to flip the whiteboard back so the class could see what was written on it.  "This is the list of the criteria that you guys came up with last week.  Use it as a jumping off point, don't feel limited by it."

  • When the current system of rule has proven itself tyrannical
  • When it's for the betterment of the people
  • Rebellions are never appropriate
  • When what is expected of you is unreasonable, and there's no other way to change things
  • When the government or whoever is in charge is making things sucky for people
  • To keep the rulling power from becomming too corrupt
  • Rebellions are always appropriate
  • When you've got nothing else left to lose
  • When the current government structure is not complying with their own stated aims, has contravened previously guaranteed citizen's rights without sufficient cause, and refuses peaceful elections or a change over in power
  • To restore the rightful government
  • If the damage the ruler was inflicting on the country outweighed loyalty to the government
  • When the government no longer represents the people it governs
  • When people under tyranny think they've been ground to the breaking point.
  • When the current government fails in it's duty to the people
  • When the general mass of the public can no longer with stand the demands of their current power structure, or when they find that the structure in place no longer serves its function or purpose.

After Aly had finished going through the list, she glanced over the class again.  "After you come up with a group reason, someone from the group should present these reasons to me and the class."  She grinned.  "I'll ask questions.  For next week, I'd like everyone to write me a quick three page paper on a revolution of some sort.  It can be from this world or your own.  Just look at the reasons behind the revolution and then make your own judgement on whether or not it was legitimate and if you'd've supported it."  She hopped back up on her desk, playing with her necklace.  "If you don't have any questions, go to."

[OOC: Wait for the OCD is up!  Paper is handwavy, of course, but if you could have some idea of what was written about, that would be excellent.  *plots*]

Re: [Rev 1/16] - Small Groups!

[identity profile] mparkerceo.livejournal.com 2007-01-16 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
"So, if a conqueror comes in-- or another faction stages a coup-- then restoring the previous government is a righteous rebellion, since it both keeps the stability of the country or world, and has the tacit consent of the population," Parker pointed out.

Re: [Rev 1/16] - Small Groups!

[identity profile] irulan-atreides.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
"As long as that is the goal of the rebellion, then it would be righteous." She paused, lost in thought, "In my world, one of the catalysts of our revolution against our Machine masters is the death of an infant martyr. But people have been ready before that."

Re: [Rev 1/16] - Small Groups!

[identity profile] mparkerceo.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
"Ugh." Parker looked ill. "How can a baby be a martyr? They have no idea what's happening!"

Re: [Rev 1/16] - Small Groups!

[identity profile] irulan-atreides.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Irulan's smile was without humor.

"They were machines, they knew nothing of emotion. Legend had it the machines took the infant Manion Butler from the womb of Serena Butler and without care proceeded on experimenting on the infant."

Re: [Rev 1/16] - Small Groups!

[identity profile] mparkerceo.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Not so very much worse, really than what was done to Angelo. Or Jarod. But still.... "I see. And this set off your last revolution."

Re: [Rev 1/16] - Small Groups!

[identity profile] irulan-atreides.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
"Yes, there were many cases of worst atrocities before that but for whatever reason, that moment was the catalyst." Irulan paused, "Perhaps it has to do with another legend, true or not, about how immediately learning of her son's death, Serena Butler went mad and attacked a Machine, killing it."

Re: [Rev 1/16] - Small Groups!

[identity profile] mparkerceo.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
"That would do it." The real martyr being a mother willing to kill or die for her child. Parker studied Irulan, and said, "And what do you think of that history?"

Re: [Rev 1/16] - Small Groups!

[identity profile] irulan-atreides.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
"History is written by the winners, Machines were extraordinarily hard to kill at that time, and thought to be virtually indestructible," Irulan said and shrugged, "But then humans have been known to achieve the impossible once backed into a corner. When I was younger I thought Serena to be the real hero of the Jihad even if Faykan Butler, her second sone, won the war."