http://a-phale.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] a-phale.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2007-01-15 10:40 am

Traditional Fairy Tales, Class Two

Monday, January 15, Period 2

The table in the center of the room was filled with breakfast pastries and hot drinks, there were stacks of books close at hand for the students to borrow for their readings assignments, and Aziraphale looked quite cheerful as he sat in his armchair and waited for the class to arrived.

"Good morning, everyone! I hope you all enjoyed your first week of classes. Today we'll begin our discussion of the basic character archetypes found in fairy tales. Your assigned reading was Jack the Giant Killer and Molly Whuppie. Following the lecture, we'll discuss the central characters in these two stories, and how they fit into the roles of hero and villain."

LECTURE: "With a few exceptions, every fairy tale contains two central figures: the hero or heroine, and the villain. These characters can take many forms, from innocent child to clever thief, from evil stepmother to hungry wolf, but the central conflict of a fairy tale often evolves around the idea of the hero outwitting the villain. The hero may have a quest to fulfill, a puzzle to solve, or a difficult situation to escape. They may act out of self-defense, altruism, love, or necessity -- sometimes even out of greed or fear. Heros display a common set of characteristics -- in general, they are quick-witted, creative, and bold. Villains are not always evil, but are in general selfish and greedy, and usually act out of a desire to fulfill personal needs or an often baseless dislike of the hero."

DISCUSSION: "Take a look at the two stories from your assigned reading. Identify the hero and villain in each one, and then explain what motivates their actions. In your opinion, why is the villain villainous, and why does the hero act heroically?

"I would also like you to take a little time at the end of class to meet with the members of your project groups. I'll be expecting proposals for your final project in a few weeks, and I'll try to give you time during each class to meet with one another."

ASSIGNMENT: "For next week, read Mr Fox and John the True."


[ooc: For those who are new to Aziraphale's classes, there is always a spread of breakfast pastries and hot drinks, which you are free to mod. Also, the room is always arranged with comfortable chairs and couches for seating, rather than desks. Please wait for the OCD threads are now up, and class is in session.]


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Re: Discussion

[identity profile] bookyeve.livejournal.com 2007-01-15 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
"Oh, most definitely. One isn't supposed to question that they're wrong or dangerous, if they're designated as the giant, is one? Even though the giant in Molly Whuppie has three daughters, he's about to kill someone else's daughters. We aren't supposed to care that he's a family man. So it's supposed to be justice that he kills his own children. Which, well, I think it is, rather, but why couldn't Molly just wake up her sisters and leave? I mean, it's more *certain* the way she did it, but... And the giants in the Jack story are braggarts, and they're terrorizing the countryside, and are definitely enemies of the commonwealth, but one doesn't have to think about that, either-- they're giants, therefore they're monsters. But Jack brags about killing giants too, with his armor, and swaggering around. And Molly keeps going back for another treasure for her sisters' dowries instead of just saying 'oh, I'd rather have a shop in Chelsea'." Evie took another huge breath. "The crown is the ultimate authority, and one isn't supposed to question it in these tales. It's a goal and a dream, of becoming part of it, by marriage or skill at arms."

Re: Discussion

[identity profile] bookyeve.livejournal.com 2007-01-16 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
Evie frowned a bit, chewing on her pencil, then said, "I still rather would have liked Molly, but would have thought she was taking foolish risks later in the story for gain that wasn't absolutely necessary. And I didn't like that Jack very much." She shot a glance over to Jack Harkness, and smiled. "That Jack was looking for trouble, and really, giants that are twenty feet tall aren't what I'd think of as giants! The pyramids are much taller! So are most buildings today! A group of people would have been much safer capturing the giant an trying to get it to see reason! Honestly. Single heroes. People get hurt like that!"

[ooc: apologies, this didn't hit my Inbox]

Re: Discussion

[identity profile] bookyeve.livejournal.com 2007-01-16 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
"Ummm...." Evie frowned. "To identify with? Or perhaps, again, to build up a particular living hero to attach a legend to them? To believe that individuals can make a difference?"

Re: Discussion

[identity profile] bookyeve.livejournal.com 2007-01-16 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Evie gave a little bounce in her chair, and smiled brightly at Mr. Phale. Really, this class was going to be fun!