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World Religions, Wednesday, 2nd Period [10/11]

Another night making friends with Mr. Miller and Mr. Daniels has left Jesse a bit less than exuberant this morning. He's standing by an open window when the first student enters and might possibly have flicked a cigarette away like a guy caught smoking in the boys room.

The handouts are waiting with the sign-in sheet and Jesse starts up as soon as everyone has taken a seat.

"When you think about religions, you probably think about a god or gods. Thing is, we've talked about more than one religion in this class that doesn't have that. Buddhism1 is another one. Buddha's not a god, he's an enlightened person. Anyone has the potential to be a Buddha, if they just wake up and see existence for what it really is. You could argue that Jesus was a Buddha. And Mohammed.

"Siddhartha Gautama2 is the guy most folks are probably thinking of when they say 'Buddha.' He's a Buddha, but he's also the Buddha, since he's the guy behind the religion we currently call Buddhism."

"Buddha said, 'I teach one thing and one thing only: suffering and the end of suffering.'

"Unlike religions that want you to go strictly on faith, Buddhist teaching encourages individuals to practice and verify the Buddha's teachings based on their own personal experience, and also after consulting with 'the wise'. If they find the teachings are true - leading to more happiness and less suffering - they can apply these teachings in a practical form into their daily life if they so wish. There's no hellfire and brimstone in the teaching and no insistence that there's only one way to get from here to there."

Jesse then goes on to discuss the various sects and approaches within Buddhism, concluding with Zen Buddhism3.

"Today I want y'all to have a look at koans4. Get together with a partner and either talk about one of the example koans. Or, and I'll give extra credit to anyone who does this, come up with a koan of your own."



Handout links:
1Buddhism at Wiki
2Gautama Buddha
3Zen Buddhism
4Koans


Syllabus

[ooc: My thanks to wikipedia for the parts I cribbed verbatim.]
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Re: Koans

[personal profile] nadiathesaint 2006-10-11 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Nadia looked up and nodded slowly. "Thanks. I'm sorry, too."

Re: Koans

[identity profile] sogothcally.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
"Things got a little out of hand," Cally said. "But hey, we should probably be doin' the assignment, right?"
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[personal profile] nadiathesaint 2006-10-11 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
"Yeah. Probably. Any koans stick out to you?"

Re: Koans

[identity profile] sogothcally.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
"Mostly? These just look like gibberish," Cally said.
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Re: Koans

[personal profile] nadiathesaint 2006-10-11 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
". . . I think that's actually kind of the point."

Re: Koans

[identity profile] sogothcally.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"The point is that they make no sense?" Cally scratched her head. "That doesn't make any sense."
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[personal profile] nadiathesaint 2006-10-11 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
"The point is, you can't look at them and know immediately what they mean. You have to think about it. And when they do make sense, you've learned something."

Re: Koans

[identity profile] sogothcally.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
"But they don't make any sense," Cally said.
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Re: Koans

[personal profile] nadiathesaint 2006-10-11 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Nadia raised an eyebrow. She was pretty sure she'd just explained that.

Re: Koans

[identity profile] sogothcally.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
"How can they make sense if they don't make sense? Even after thinking about them?"
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Re: Koans

[personal profile] nadiathesaint 2006-10-11 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Nadia raised her other eyebrow and looked expectantly at Cally.

And made a mental note of that, because it probably counted as a good koan.

Re: Koans

[identity profile] sogothcally.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
"What?" Cally said. "Am I being too stupid and blind to see the 'obvious' again?"
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Re: Koans

[personal profile] nadiathesaint 2006-10-11 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
"How long have you been thinking about the koans?"

Re: Koans

[identity profile] sogothcally.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
"Not long enough, apparently," Cally said. "You probably figured them all out already, huh?"
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Re: Koans

[personal profile] nadiathesaint 2006-10-11 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
"Not even close." Nadia shrugged. "I mean, I understand what they're for, which is to get you thinking in a different way. But I don't know what they mean yet."

Re: Koans

[identity profile] sogothcally.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
"I just... I dunno. It's too... impractical, for me," Cally said.
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Re: Koans

[personal profile] nadiathesaint 2006-10-11 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Nadia nodded. "It's probably nice, to not have anything better to think about than what sound it makes if one hand claps."

Re: Koans

[identity profile] sogothcally.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Cally held up a hand, and proceeded to do that one handed clapping thing people can do (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Q1nLwYK6E).

"Not that interesting, either."
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Re: Koans

[personal profile] nadiathesaint 2006-10-11 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Nadia grinned, despite that Cally had probably completely missed the point. "Okay, but what about the dog having Buddha nature?"

Re: Koans

[identity profile] sogothcally.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"Okay, that, I have no idea. Though that's mainly because I only learned about this Buddha guy today for the first time," Cally said.
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Re: Koans

[personal profile] nadiathesaint 2006-10-11 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
"Fair enough. Do you guys have any religions like this where you're from?"

Re: Koans

[identity profile] sogothcally.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
"We really only have the one," Cally said. "And we're kinda all 'yay lots of gods' about it."
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[personal profile] nadiathesaint 2006-10-11 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
"Nobody believes anything different?"

Re: Koans

[identity profile] sogothcally.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
"Well, you either believe the scrolls or you don't," Cally said. "That's about it."
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[personal profile] nadiathesaint 2006-10-11 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
"See, that seems weird to me."

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