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Ghanima Atreides ([personal profile] atreideslioness) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2018-10-17 12:53 pm
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Mad Kings & Queens: Raving Royals and How To Survive Them (Wednesday, 2nd Period)

Ghanima was sitting on a large cushion as the class filed in today, a cup of spiced coffee clutched in her hands.  Against the wall by the door, large carafes of coffee, tea, and juice sat on a table and waited for the students.

"I'm sure many of you had busy break weeks," she said, watching as they got settled.  "Regardless, I need you awake and with me today."

"When Mustafa I was born, a tradition had long been in place in Turkey that newly crowned Sultans would execute any contenders to the throne.  Namely, their brothers," Ghanima said, sipping at her drink.  "When Mustafa's brother, Ahmed, came to the throne, he decided to spare his little brother's life, and instead he was confined to his room in virtual imprisonment, a system called Kafes, for fourteen years."

"You must keep in mind that the early history of the Ottoman Empire is littered with succession wars between rival sons of the deceased sultan. Therefore, it was almost considered the law that once the new sultan ascended to the throne, he had his brothers killed, sometimes dozens of them at once, including infants," Ghanima continued briskly.  "Although this practice effectively reduced the number of claimants to the throne, there were several occasions where the Ottoman line seemed destined to end. The introduction of confinement of heirs provided security for an incumbent sultan and continuity of the dynasty.  It wreaked havoc on their education and mental health, but it was seen as a measure to guarantee succession."

"When Ahmet I died in 1617 his eldest son was only 13 years old and for the first time in 14 generations the succession was altered by the Imperial Council so that the late sultan's brother acceded to the throne as Mustafa I."

"When Mustafa was first freed, his mental health was hotly debated at court.  Some said he was divinely inspired and a religious visionary.  Others saw his ranting as psychotic rather than celestial.  His policies and orders did little to gain any confidence: any kind page or generous farmer could find themselves in an exalted position of considerable power at the royal court.  This annoyed enough courtiers to tip the balance of public opinion against him, and after less-than a year, Mustafa was returned to his cage."

"For the next four years, Mustafa remained locked away with two female slaves to care for him.  Outside, Osman II, his late brother's son, was ruling.  He issued edicts against everything from tobacco to alcohol, and practiced with bow and arrow on living targets around the court.  Ultimately, he made himself very unpopular, and was tortured to death in 1622."

"During this period, Mustafa was rather content in his cage.  When he was released in 1623, he refused to leave at first, and had to be dragged out at the end of a rope.  Despite his objections, questionable mental health, and obvious inadequacies, Mustafa was a reluctant sultan once more."

"Again entrusted with governing Turkey, terrified of the responsibility, and unprepared, he set out to wreak havoc.  He slaughtered all those who had been responsible for removing him from his cage, including his nephew.  Farm laborers, donkey drivers, and other unlikely subjects found themselves promoted.  Taxes went unpaid, armed forces went un-salaried, and nationwide anarchy loomed.  Meanwhile, Mustafa ran in search of Osman, convinced he was alive and begging him to return and take over the throne.  When he ordered the execution of all Osman's brothers, he was persuaded by his court to renounce the throne, and turn over the monarchy to another one of his nephews."

"Mustafa returned to his cage one last time, late in 1623.  He died there sixteen years later."
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There was going to be a lot of staring from Prompto during today's lecture, yeah, because whaaaaaat the fuck, Ottomans? Seriously.

This was honestly making him think that maybe Niflheim wasn't all that bad, actually....
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"I mean," Prompto offered, after a few blinks to just clear his head a little bit after that whopper of a story, "the way you described it, it sounds like he really didn't mind the whole cage thing, which is...y'know, whatever, you do you, man, and I guess they just kind of kept bringing him out because....I don't know, tradition? No other options? The whole thing just seems really inefficient and...weird."
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"What did they honestly expect, though?" Prompto really was trying to wrap his head around it "Just keep a dude in a cage, and then, oh, yeah, sure, he'll totally be ready to rule a whole kingdom now, no problem. It's like...." He bit his lip, really not liking the analogy that popped into his head, but it seemed to work well enough, "You have a kitten, right, and you keep that kitten in your room for most of its life, and then you let it out into the wilderness, and you're surprised when you come back and find that it's been eaten by sabertusks or daemons or something.

"I mean, I guess sometimes it could work," like taking a kid who'd never been out of Insomnia and plopping him right smack dab onto a weird island, but he wasn't exactly expected to rule anything over here, "but the odds probably aren't that great."
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Huh. Well, the methods sort of made sense, even if they hadn't done very well for the Ottomans.
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"That's the part that doesn't make sense to me," Lana said. "I can understand caging him, but when he didn't want to rule and was clearly unfit, why not just choose someone else?"
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Lana shook her head. "It would seem a competent regent would be preferable. But then, I've never understood the reliance on bloodlines. Surely they should only be important because of the abilities they impart, not in and of themselves."