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Creative Writing: Poetry (3/14/05)

"Good morning, class. I'm Mr. Raymond and I will be taking over for Mr. Chaucer. I am originally from San Diego. My hobbies include wine and writing novels. I'm sure we've all got a lot to talk about. First, turn in your terza rimas from the 28th, then we'll get settled with this week's poet."

"Robert Burns was often regarded as the national poet of Scotland. He wrote extensively in the Scots language, but a great deal of his work was written in English, using a Scottish dialect. During his lifetime in the late eighteenth century, he wrote hundreds, if not thousands, of poems and songs, and was, unlike so many of the other writers we've studied, quite popular in his own time. So popular, in fact, that when he died, the kindness of his fans supported his widow and children for some time after."

"Your discussion questions:

1) What aspects of his poems do you suppose made them so immensely popular?

2) How does the Scottish dialect affect the reading of the work? Does it make the imagery more powerful? How?"

ASSIGNMENT:

"Choose a modern song, written within the last 10 years, and re-envision the lyrics as a poem. You may make two or three minor changes to the text, but please keep the spirit of the piece. You will be making presentations on these in two weeks time."
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Re: Sign In

[personal profile] sensethevisions 2006-03-14 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Phoebe Halliwell
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Re: Discuss the Questions

[personal profile] sensethevisions 2006-03-14 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Phoebe wrote the answers to both questions in her notebook in great detail.
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Re: Turn in the Assignment

[personal profile] sensethevisions 2006-03-14 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Phoebe turns in her last assignment from Chaucer
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Re: Other In-Class Chatter

[personal profile] sensethevisions 2006-03-14 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Phoebe sits and writes while looking for Kiki
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Re: Talk to the Teacher

[personal profile] sensethevisions 2006-03-14 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Phoebe approaches the teacher a bit shyly.

"Mr. Raymond? I was one of the students that was taking Western Lit as an Independent Study and I was wondering when you would like to set up meetings for that?"

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[identity profile] anextimeagent.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Jack Harkness

Re: Discuss the Questions

[identity profile] anextimeagent.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
"I think it's because they actually sounded like people. I mean, so much poetry that we've been studying is all about the "wherefore art thou"s, which is fine if you're Shakespeare. But Burns was... what, a hundred years after Shakespeare? He wrote poetry that sounded like the way people talked. He also wrote a ton of "thou shalt" and "e'vntide beckons" and "O woe is't to be thine enemy" type poetry, but that's the mun being a geek."

Re: Sign In

[identity profile] kikidelivers.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Kiki signs in. She's shown up early, as usual, to lay out coffee and croissants.

Re: Other In-Class Chatter

[identity profile] kikidelivers.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Kiki sits at her desk with a mug of tea and a croissant and grins at Phoebe.

Re: Talk to the Teacher

[identity profile] kikidelivers.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Kiki is right on Phoebe's heels. "Mr. Raymond? I was the other student for the Western Lit Independent Study. Sorry for interrupting, but I figure it would be easier to just give the answer once, rather than having to repeat it!"

Re: Discuss the Questions

[identity profile] kikidelivers.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
"I agree," offered Kiki. "By writing in a local dialect, he's able to better represent and evoke the imagry he's seeking to portray. It's a sort of audible immersal in the language, rather than just the meanings of the words."

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[identity profile] oatmanspatient.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Marty attends class
After returning from work
With his name he signs

Re: Turn in the Assignment

[identity profile] kikidelivers.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Kiki has to dig through her notebook a bit before she finally pulls out a page.

On a Fair Day

On a crisp autumnal morn,
A maid went walking to the fair
And passing by a field of corn

She heard a voice cry, "'Ware!"
She turned and spied an ancient crone
With wrinkled face and gray of hair

Who said, "Lass, best you take this stone
To pay the troll there his fee
If o'er yon bridge you walk alone."

With thanks the lass went on to see
With stone in hand this horrid troll
And it made her scared as scared could be.

"Master, here you take your toll,"
She said, "And on my way then I'll go."
He raged, "This is not gold, but coal!"

The maiden cried, "Alas, and woe!
Please, sir, forgive my sorry art,
But 'twas the old woman told me so."

The troll replied, "I see your heart,
I know you know not what you did,
It means now I must from here part.

"Long has she tried this bridge to rid
Of me, this spot's little curse,
But I'll obey only an innocent bid,.

"'Twas yours, and for me it goes worse."
The troll sighed and turned and fled,
while the stone she put in her little purse.

The maiden shook her pretty head,
"Sir, I'm sorry," was all she said.

Re: Discuss the Questions

[identity profile] oatmanspatient.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
To the first question, could it also be his subject matter which in (at least in my opinion) was something that anyone could relate to? I mean the guy wrote poems about a haggis and a mouse. Who can't relate to that?

As for the dialect, I'm not entirely sure. It certainly gives you an idea of the rhythm he was going for which in some other poems you might not get the idea of how the author envisioned the poem being read.

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[identity profile] kikidelivers.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Today's class is on
terza rima not haiku,
help yourself to food.


[gah... sorry. I can't stop!

Re: Sign In

[identity profile] sharon-valerii.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
*signs in*

Re: Turn in the Assignment

[identity profile] sharon-valerii.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Sharon turned in the assignment, which, given her last bout with poetry, was probably pretty bad.

Re: Talk to the Teacher

[identity profile] kikidelivers.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
"Great, thank you," Kiki nods. "Hunchback of Notre Dame for next week, right?"


[ooc: *cackles* I suppose it would be mean to drag out Kiki's previous WL:IS meetings. "Low involvement" isn't often an accurate descriptor for them!! *g* I'd use those to gratuitously pander to my inner lit geek...]