http://professor-lyman.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] professor-lyman.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2014-09-19 11:27 am
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American History: Lies Your Other Teachers Taught You [Friday, Sept 19, 2014]

Hello, kids, and welcome to the latest installment of Joshua Lyman Really Hates Texas!

He waved a stack of paper that he then slapped onto each student's desk. "Right. Texas is fighting about American history books again. As we talked about in the beginning of the class, who ends up in books, how the story is presented, and making sure that information is presented in a balanced and accurate way is what stops us all from being Fox News watching morons who believe our current president is a Kenyan Muslim terrorist who's carrying ebola personally across the Mexican border."

Stop ranting, Josh.

"When a book is full of white guys, students will get the impression that white guys were the only ones who did anything and that is patently untrue. This current iteration of a history book apparently spends a lot of time talking about Moses and the formation of the US as a Christian nation which is...well, not true. First off, Moses was Jewish. Second of all, it was thousands of years between Moses and Europeans even getting to this continent. Third of all, the separation of religion from the practical aspects of governing a country was way, WAY up on the list of importance for our Founders. Many of the colonies had been founded by people fleeing religious oppression. Thomas Jefferson wrote and I quote, and feel free to forward this to your crazy redneck uncle, 'Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.' You can be me and be gearing up for High Holidays, you can believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, you can worship Zuul and unless you decide that your religion means you can keep slaves, have ten wives, or kill everyone in a fifteen-block radius, the government is supposed to give no kind of a fuck." He shrugged. "Most of the time that's even true."

He leaned back against his desk. "But why does what one state does in a textbook matter on a national level? Texas is freaking huge, and they buy a lot of textbooks. Therefore, the publishers want to make Texas happy so they can make lots of money. We'll discuss this more when we get into why the Confederacy comes off smelling like a rose in a lot of history textbooks and how that's because Texas is in the South.To a lesser extent, this is also why kids in Minnesota have to remember the Alamo." He took a sip from his coffee. "Okay. First we're gonna rant about Texas a bit, then you get a surprise pop quiz where you have to correctly label the states and their capitals because that kind of crap isn't up for debate."
flickofthewrist: (crying is cleansing)

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[personal profile] flickofthewrist 2014-09-19 10:38 am (UTC)(link)
Flick
flickofthewrist: (not afraid to die)

Re: Why, Texas, why?

[personal profile] flickofthewrist 2014-09-19 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
"You're not gonna make everyone happy," Flick said, shaking his head once he'd finished the article. "Just let the kids learn about the presidents, the major wars, and then go from there. I think everyone in America doesn't mind boasting about their favorite president and why certain wars happened."

He shrugged. "Textbooks would be thin and not cost a lot of money either."
flickofthewrist: (king of the load)

Re: Pop quiz!

[personal profile] flickofthewrist 2014-09-19 10:45 am (UTC)(link)
Flick actually didn't do too badly. He messed up which state freaking Wyoming was but other than that, he was golden.
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[personal profile] pulseof_life 2014-09-19 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Paddra Nsu-Yeul
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Re: Pop quiz!

[personal profile] pulseof_life 2014-09-19 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
It was probably not surprising, but Yeul did terribly at this.

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[identity profile] ultimatehottie.livejournal.com 2014-09-19 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Johnny Storm

Re: Pop quiz!

[identity profile] ultimatehottie.livejournal.com 2014-09-19 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Johnny did badly on this. He barely realized that places like Montana existed, let alone cities in it.

Re: Why, Texas, why?

[identity profile] ultimatehottie.livejournal.com 2014-09-19 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
"Dude, Texas sucks," Johnny said. Yes, that was his contribution.
spin_kick_snap: Kang Min Kyung as Kathy/Banzai (Bwah??)

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[personal profile] spin_kick_snap 2014-09-19 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Kathy Li
spin_kick_snap: Kang Min Kyung as Kathy/Banzai (Bitchy Sneer)

Re: Why, Texas, why?

[personal profile] spin_kick_snap 2014-09-19 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't worry, Josh. Kathy absolutely had your back on this.

"This is such bullshit," she said, because if their teacher could drop an f-bomb in the lecture, she could correctly ID bullshit as bullshit. "There's more to America than just white people and their contributions. If your book is ignoring history in order to alienate huge swathes of the population while delivering ass-pats to the people who look and think like you, that's not education, it's indoctrination."

Someone had apparently woken up on the very testy side of the bed this morning.
Edited 2014-09-19 14:04 (UTC)
spin_kick_snap: Kang Min Kyung as Kathy/Banzai (Study)

Re: Pop quiz!

[personal profile] spin_kick_snap 2014-09-19 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Kathy had a little trouble with the square states firmly in flyover country, but otherwise did fine.
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[personal profile] wildandbrave 2014-09-19 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Cosette Fauchelevent
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[personal profile] tigerundercover 2014-09-19 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Raven Darkholme
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Re: Listen to the lecture

[personal profile] wildandbrave 2014-09-19 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
That . . . was quite the rant, Josh, and Cosette was duly, if somewhat dubiously, impressed.

Admittedly, she did not take too kindly to the rant at first, and spent the first five minutes or so of it frowning, but she was listening and it did seem to make sense the longer he went on, so the frown softened into a slightly reserved, thoughtful expression.
tigerundercover: (blonde - unimpressed)

Re: Why, Texas, why?

[personal profile] tigerundercover 2014-09-19 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
"I don't understand," Raven said. "Not just going around murdering people seems like a pretty straightforward idea for a law. Do they think the only reason why anyone would have thought of it was because it was in the Ten Commandments?"

Raven was developing a fairly complicated relationship with the morality of killing, herself, but she was at least reasonably sure the idea that killing each other made for an unstable society was fairly universal.
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Re: Pop quiz!

[personal profile] wildandbrave 2014-09-19 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
. . . yeah, no, Cosette was going to fail miserably at this.

And then go back to her room and study up on it afterward, of course, but she was not at all prepared for a pop quiz on the state capitals of a country that she hadn't known much of anything about at all in her time, when it was about a third of the size it was now.
tigerundercover: (blonde - pleased)

Re: Pop quiz!

[personal profile] tigerundercover 2014-09-19 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Raven did extremely well on the quiz. The benefit of having a mun who used to keep herself entertained with geography quizzes come from an era where geography was still its own separate class in school.

The only ones she wasn't sure of were about Alaska and Hawaii, which in her defense wouldn't be states for another five years, when she was from.

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[identity profile] nobodysbatman.livejournal.com 2014-09-19 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Scott McCall

Re: Pop quiz!

[identity profile] nobodysbatman.livejournal.com 2014-09-19 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Scott missed a few (like Kathy and Flick, mostly those square ones in the middle) but did pretty well overall.
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[personal profile] stacyexperiment 2014-09-19 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Gwen Stacy

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[identity profile] pasunereveuse.livejournal.com 2014-09-19 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Celia Bowen
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Re: Why, Texas, why?

[personal profile] tigerundercover 2014-09-19 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
"All of them?" Raven said. "Like you said, it's a pretty big place."

Re: Why, Texas, why?

[identity profile] pasunereveuse.livejournal.com 2014-09-19 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
"We should just let them secede," Celia offered, because even if she was a little confused on some of the things that were being emphasized or glossed over in the book (who in the devil's name was this Reagan man?), she was fairly annoyed at the idea of anyone trying to whitewash their history. "They've always wanted to, haven't they?"

Re: Pop quiz!

[identity profile] pasunereveuse.livejournal.com 2014-09-19 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Celia's biggest problem was that state lines had changed since her time -- not to mention that they'd added about a dozen of them.

She got about half of the capitals right, at least -- the ones she'd been to were easy, and then she could sort of...guess where certain cities were in this time, even if things were delineated a little differently.
spin_kick_snap: Kang Min Kyung as Kathy/Banzai (Grumpy)

Re: Why, Texas, why?

[personal profile] spin_kick_snap 2014-09-19 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"No, if only because at some point in our history, patriotism turned from something good to creepy jingoistic sentiment," Kathy said. "There's nothing wrong with being proud of your country and making sure that our history books include the good we've done as well as the bad, but I don't think that there needs to specifically be whole sections devoted to making us feel good about ourselves. And maybe if we stopped mythologizing our history, we could move beyond what a group of men thought two hundred and fifty years ago, like their life experiences as rich, white, land-holding aristocrats--whether they called themselves that or not--have anything to with the modern day, long before the age of the internet, automatic assault rifles, and the idea that women and minorities have thoughts and feelings of their own."

WHATEVER, JEFFERSON, KATHY WAS OVER YOU. YOU DIDN'T EVEN FREE YOUR SLAVES IN YOUR WILL.
spin_kick_snap: Kang Min Kyung as Kathy/Banzai (Sassy)

Re: Why, Texas, why?

[personal profile] spin_kick_snap 2014-09-19 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
"Just wait till we start talking about social justice and who gets a say in what I do with my uterus," Kathy said, giving him a small, pleased smile in return.
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Re: Why, Texas, why?

[personal profile] flickofthewrist 2014-09-20 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
"That it happened and if people want to know more, they can do independent research," Flick decided.

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[identity profile] kenselvren.livejournal.com 2014-09-21 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
Jalian d'Arsennette y ken Selvren

Re: Pop quiz!

[identity profile] kenselvren.livejournal.com 2014-09-21 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
Jalian knew...Washington, DC. And New York, and San Francisco, and Los Angeles. And Baltimore. And the locations of most nuclear missile sites.

Yeah, she did pretty abysmally at this.

Re: Why, Texas, why?

[identity profile] kenselvren.livejournal.com 2014-09-21 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
Jalian sighed. It was going to be another one of those classes, wasn't it? "Who is Moses? And what are they 'batting a thousand' of?"