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Jono Starsmore ([personal profile] furnaceface) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2012-11-16 08:13 am

Living on the Outskirts, Friday, Period 2

"Next week there's no class on Friday, so I suppose this week I ought to give you all something properly heavy to chew on until we get back, hm?" Yes, Jonothon was cruel, sometimes. At least it came in the form of a generally harmless sort of cruelty that he could inflict on his students by way of just doing what he was expected to get up there to do?

... There was some strange sort of logic in there if you squinted.

"Every now and again, no matter where you are, you'll step into something that's entirely over your head. Running... sometimes running won't be an option, particularly on Fandom, which seems to enjoy blocking the Causeway off when things are going their worst. Sometimes standing up and fighting isn't enough, either. Pushing for a fight that you cannot win can lead to you getting hurt, and in some situations can bring about even worse consequences."

He gave the room a wry smile. Yes, he was aware that this one wasn't going to be a popular topic with some of the more fiercely independent students.

"And sometimes, whatever that problem you've run into is, it's something that requires a solution you're simply not equipped to provide. Somebody's hurt and you need a healer to step in, in order to save their life. Things have gone rotten in a horrible way back home, and you need to round up the cavalry - something that's surprisingly easy to do around here, if you haven't needed to yet - to come help you clear up a situation that needs more firepower than even you can provide. Yes, it's okay to ask for help.

"I'm certain you've all had to do it at some point or another, to just swallow your pride and admit that you can't do something alone. You might have had to bargain, or beg, or turn to somebody you don't like, or don't even trust for assistance. I'm not telling you to throw caution to the wind. If you don't feel comfortable asking for help, there's probably good reason for that. But don't rule it out completely in all situations... putting pride before necessity can lead to some pretty terrible consequences that could have been avoided. Please, do try to bear that in mind. You are not weak if you need to ask for help with something. Different people have different skill sets, and you might excel in something that the people you're asking for help might not be able to do, in turn."

He gave a wry smile to the group.

"Being aware enough to know what you can't do on your own, and then being sensible enough to do something about that while considering the consequences of whatever choice you make is a sign of strength in its own right. Today I'm not going to make you lot do trust-falls or anything like that, since there are more than a few of us and there's not enough room in here for that sort of activity," and he was pretty certain someone would end up cracking their head open on the floor if they did, "so it's going to be another discussion class today. Share with the group one time that somebody asked for help and it went well for them. That somebody doesn't need to be you, if you're not comfortable sharing. And, if you really feel like proving me wrong today, go on and scare the class with a horror story about how asking the wrong person for help went horribly awry. We all have those stories too, I'm sure."

It was counter-productive, perhaps, but he didn't want his students blindly asking people who couldn't be trusted for help before taking the time to make an educated decision about who they turned to, either. When it mattered the most, he wanted them to be careful. Just not so careful that they damned themselves with stubbornness or fear.

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Paddra Nsu-Yeul
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[personal profile] pulseof_life 2012-11-16 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeul did neither despite the fact that she was not particularly comfortable with the topic.

She just listened and kept her thoughts to herself.
Edited 2012-11-16 13:07 (UTC)
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Atton Rand (and guest)
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[personal profile] suitably_heroic 2012-11-16 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, at least Jono had helpfully contributed an eyeroll-worthy class so Sia would know Atton hadn't been complaining for nothing, right?

Pride. Asking for help. Whatever.

For someone like Atton, the only good response to being faced with that kind of thing was running away really hard.

And hoping nobody tried to stab you to death.
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Victor Mancha

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Stephanie Brown

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[identity profile] batwaffles.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
It was funny; the subject of the lecture was exactly the kind of thing she'd had Bruce yell at her about time and again, and she'd always rolled her eyes and half tuned him out. (Not completely, though. Stupid as she thought the lectures were, there was that pesky and unignorable drive to get his approval.)

Stephanie seemed a lot more willing to listen to it today, though. Maybe that was because it was coming from Jono, who while not all that different in demeanor from Bruce was definitively not the Big Bat. Maybe it was because she wasn't on the receiving end of it right after a fight, and she wasn't already stinging from the (at least) half-dozen critiques of her technique, attitude, and everything in between that usually precluded this particular point of the routine dressing-down.

She still didn't entirely like the idea -- stupid, really, when she gave Tony crap for doing the exact same thing -- but she was listening. And even thinking about it, a little bit, as her thoughtful expression and the way she was biting her lip might suggest.

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[identity profile] harpy-daughter.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Surreal shrugged one shoulder. "Tersa's broken," she said bluntly. "We call it 'walking in the Twisted Kingdom,' but the landen term is usually 'crazy.' She made the choice to sacrifice most of her sanity to keep some of her power."

"She wanders around, usually finds something to eat occasionally, but isn't great at remembering about things like shelter or warm clothes. So sometimes I go out and find her and she stays with me for a week or so until she disappears again."

"Though she's not the one that asks for help for herself; she'd probably survive just fine on her own, even if not well. 'S a friend of hers that usually brings her 'round, when things get too bad."

Like Surreal ever asked for help for herself. Ever. But she had a habit of feeding the puppies that'd been kicked worse than her.

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[identity profile] harpy-daughter.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Surreal was just going to eyeroll at the rest of this. Because asking for help was just not something Blood did, no matter their race.

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Cade

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[identity profile] makemyownway.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Cade wasn't even going to waste time rolling his eyes.

Asking for help was for other people who had, you know, people to ask.
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Mercy Thompson
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"In the spirit of the class," Mercy said dryly. "How does Tuesday sound for tattoo stuff?"

Why Tuesday? Because she'd be 18 that day, not that she was telling anyone.
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[personal profile] walkswithcoyote 2012-11-16 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Mercy passed her a note. "How does Tuesday sound for the tattoo thing?"

She'd be 18 and therefore legal to get one (sorry, Cade, though she might just wear a tight shirt anyway)- so she thought it would be a good time.
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[personal profile] pulseof_life 2012-11-16 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeul read the note and then smiled over at Mercy before writing out a response and slipping it onto Mercy’s desk.

I am free Tuesday. Have you decided on what to get? Or will you decide at the parlor?
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[personal profile] pulseof_life 2012-11-16 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeul waited until the end of class before approaching Professor Starsmore. "I think your lesson was an interesting one, Professor. Hello."

Not that she’d participated in the discussion but it had been interesting.

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