http://steel-not-glass.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] steel-not-glass.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2011-05-18 04:02 am
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Sex And Candy, Wednesday, Second Period

Unlike last week, there was no trip to the Danger Shop, no fairy tale garden, and no forbidden candy awaiting the students. In fact, all that was waiting for them when they arrived in their classroom was a smiling Cindy and several stacks of paper to be handed out to them by her TAs if they were there.

Okay, there were also a few boxes of pastries and a carafe of coffee on the front of Cindy's desk. She might have been waiting to see if anyone went for a cup or a doughnut after last week's class.

The lecture began as soon as the bell rang; they had a lot of ground to cover today. "Today, we'll be talking a lot about what fairy tales are, as well as what distinguishes them from other types of stories. Mankind--and other species presumably--have been telling stories since we discovered language and even possibly before that, so there are a lot of different kinds of stories out there. Understanding what I mean when I say 'fairy tale' will really help you get a handle on the class."

On now began the great passing out of handouts.

"Now, most of these story types fall under the heading of folklore, which include fables, myths, legends, and fairy tales. All of these stories can be looked at to gain further understanding of the societies and cultures they came from, even if these tales are not considered to be historically or factually accurate. These are more properly considered 'folk narratives' because we're studying the stories, as opposed to the behaviors, rituals, or artifacts of a particular culture. Now, while folklore incorporates those different kinds of stories, they are not all synonyms for one another. A legend is not a myth, though they are often conflated, and a fairy tale is not a fable. So, let's look at where one type of story begins and another ends."

"Myths," Cindy continued, "are stories about gods, heroes, and men that are closely linked to and usually endorsed by a specific religion. Myths generally try explain why the world is as it is, how certain rituals or taboos came to be, and answer other questions about the world around us and our lives. Whether we are discussing Ra masturbating into his hand to create other gods or Eve eating the apple in the Garden of Eden, we're talking about myths. Some people might get offended hearing their religion called a myth. Get over it. In scholastic terms, myths are considered to be real stories--as opposed to fables, which are usually considered to be false--that took place in a far-off age. Shorthand? Myths are religious stories that the people of that religion believe to be truthful, if not exact."

"Closely related to myths, however, are legends. Legends are also traditionally considered 'true,' in the same way myths are, but while myths are stories of the ancient past, before the world became as it is now, legends are stories of the 'here and now.'" Cindy gave the class a smile. "This is, of course, relative, as many Greek legends are now thousands of years old. Legends also are generally more concerned with the deeds of men, instead of gods or the supernatural, though the latter may play important parts in the story. A big part of legends, though, involve the idea of realism. Within a legend, only things that are considered to be 'possible' can happen. Now, the idea of what is possible is rather flexible--the legend of Odysseus contains mention of Circe turning men into pigs and a sack that can hold the four winds, as well as any number of gods and monsters. In its time, all of these things were considered true and possible--and, being in Fandom in ancient Egypt, who are we to say they aren't?--so even though the modern world considers these tales to be fantastic, they are still considered to be legends and therefore 'true stories.'"

"Over in stories considered to be false from the time of their creation, we have fables and fairy tales. Fables are stories told to illustrate a particular lesson, usually involving anthropomorphized animals, plants, inanimate objects, and forces of nature to get the point across. A well-known fable, for example, is The Ant and the Grasshopper. Fables are not very subtle and many of them have the moral written in at the very end, on the off chance you'd missed it while reading, heaven only knows how. Because they contain the doings of plants and animals, fables can never be mistaken for 'true stories' that is, stories that actually happened. They're also related to parables, in that a parable is the same kind of story, but with human characters instead. These are stories that could conceivably have happened. So, if The Ant and the Grasshopper became The Farmer and the Bard, but remained functionally the same, it would be a parable, not a fable."

"And now we come to fairy tales. These are stories that are not considered to be real or true, unlike legends, and are not explicitly told for the moral therein. Now, while it's easy to find morals and lessons in fairy tails, they don't come with those morals rubber-stamped at the end. Scholars dispute exactly what makes a fairy tale a fairy tale--most of them don't actively involve fairies, even if magic is a common trope, and there are plenty of stories that revolve around talking animals or plants, like a fable does. The Bremen Town Musicians is a story about a donkey, a dog, a cat, and a rooster, but is considered a fairy tale, rather than a fable. The most simple definition is that it's any story that contains elements of folklore--witches, spells, elves, fairies, giants, talking animals and the like--so long as those elements are not considered to be real. The fairy tale of Hansel and Gretel, told in a world where people believed in witches and gingerbread cottages, would be considered a legend."

"So, today, I've brought an assortment of stories along with me. You may work alone or in pairs, going through the stories and deciding what category it belongs to. Also..." she smiled at them, "anyone interested can feel free to have some pastries or coffee, if they'd like."

[OCD up!]
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Alex Aaron
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Warren Worthington III
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[personal profile] wwiii 2011-05-18 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
Warren smiled as he looked over the list of stories. He was familiar with at least a few of them. The Fox and the Grapes, for example, was a fable by Aesop. He knew that one from the title alone. Other ones, like The White Snake, and The Three Spinners, were new to him.

That was fine, he seemed to enjoy reading up on the stories just as much as he liked sorting out where they belonged. And if he happened to be trying to commit a few of those to memory for the next time he got a chance to visit a certain small friend of his in Kaeleer, would anyone blame him?
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Raven
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[personal profile] trigons_child 2011-05-18 12:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Raven nibbled on a forbidden donut non-forbidden pastry as she studied the stories. She totally expected better of the crow, it being in the same family as ravens.

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Juliet Darling

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[identity profile] twintuitionist.livejournal.com 2011-05-18 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Juliet sipped at her coffee and made a good attempt at categorizing the stories before she got distracted wondering why she'd never seen a filmed adaptation of the Lady Godiva legend. It seemed like a wonderful part for any actress.

Maybe it could be hers.
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[personal profile] icecoldfrost 2011-05-18 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Emma had brought her own coffee, thank you, but she was around if people had questions.

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Mercy Thompson
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Re: Class Activity: Categorize the Stories

[personal profile] walkswithcoyote 2011-05-18 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Mercy sure wasn't going to reread the Welsh Culhwch and Olwen, nor Beowulf (both legends), since there was some rumor that Bran might actually have been the basis for the evil Grendel. She was done with the werewolves.

So she read about Nut, thinking that Egyptian mythology was about as far away from werewolves and the fae as she was going to get.

Categorization wasn't that difficult.
Edited 2011-05-18 16:41 (UTC)
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Claudia Donovan
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Jaime hadn't brought his own coffee, but he was perfectly willing to risk Cindy's wrath by taking some from her desk.

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Sov Thade Tage em Ereb

Re: Class Activity: Categorize the Stories

[identity profile] child-of-rer.livejournal.com 2011-05-18 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Sov got completely absorbed by the stories. They were so foreign, and yet they could find things here and there that reminded them of the old tales from Rer. There wasn't much categorizing happening - there were too many wonderful details.

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[identity profile] child-of-rer.livejournal.com 2011-05-18 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
After the class, Sov shyly approached the teacher. "I'm sorry I missed class last week. I was asleep."

That didn't sound too good. "I mean, all week. I don't think I was feeling quite well. It has never happened before!"
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Cally
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[personal profile] onlymistaken 2011-05-18 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Cally, ever interested in a story even (perhaps even more so) when she did not believe it was true, was drawn more to the fairy tales than the legends, and was soon engrossed by reading about the adventures of the man who'd eaten from the white snake. Except... "What, the horse didn't bother to shout out 'Please don't kill me?'"
Edited 2011-05-18 20:43 (UTC)

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