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screwyoumarvel ([personal profile] screwyoumarvel) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2010-02-19 03:52 am
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Battles That Changed History, Second Period, Friday 2/19

"I couldn't possibly hope to cover the entirety of the Crusades in the time we have today," Steve said, "and I know spring break's just around the corner. So let's go with the very bare basics: the Crusades were a series of wars fought over about two hundred years for control of an area known as the Holy Land, especially the city of Jerusalem. Muslims had control of the area; Christians wanted control, arguing it was theirs by right because it was, yes, holy in their religion. Of course, the area was also holy to the Muslims, who were already living there, and then there were the Jewish people, who had it first before the waves of conquest started coming, and these other two religions--Christianity and Islam--grew out of theirs. The Jews are pretty much being persecuted by all parties at this time, so the fight is between the Christians and the Muslims, both of whom claim God has given them this land. Kingdoms rise and fall based on success and failure in these wars; fortunes are poured into them; whole generations of men go and fight and die. Incredibly stupid and terrible things are done. And guess what?" Steve leaned forward over his desk. "We're still fighting over it. It's not settled yet.

"So, what can we learn from the Crusades? One, if you've lost the war once, don't go and fight it again and again and again for two hundred years. Two, people get irrational when religion is involved. Three, if people are living somewhere, and have been living there for quite some time, generally speaking it's not good manners to show up and tell them it belongs to you by divine right. In other words, use some common sense. I hope you will also use some common sense on your spring break; now you can discuss the Crusades amongst yourselves, then go enjoy it."

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[identity profile] ancientbschamp.livejournal.com 2010-02-19 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Gabrielle

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[identity profile] ancientbschamp.livejournal.com 2010-02-19 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Gabrielle's expression drifted further and further frown-like throughout the lecture. A war they were still fighting? All this one-god stuff sounded like it was trouble. Which was a depressing thought.

Sure, Mael had been crazy and there was something disturbing about Anteus being so willing to sacrifice his own son on his god's (supposed) say-so, but Icus had been a nice kid. And David . . . sigh.

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Arthur Pendragon

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[personal profile] bitchprince 2010-02-19 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Arthur was present, of course. He looked... thoughtful, throughout.
future_sandworm: (desert creature)

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[personal profile] future_sandworm 2010-02-19 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Leto Atreides
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[personal profile] likes_scoundrels 2010-02-19 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Leia Organa

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Mulan

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[identity profile] bloody-luck.livejournal.com 2010-02-19 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Mat Cauthon

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[identity profile] bloody-luck.livejournal.com 2010-02-19 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Mat wondered what would have happened if he'd told Ba'alzamon to stop fighting the same war over and over again, expecting the Dragon to change his mind and join the Dark One.

But then, Mat recalled, he liked being alive.

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[identity profile] bamf-tastic.livejournal.com 2010-02-19 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Kurt Wagner

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[identity profile] bamf-tastic.livejournal.com 2010-02-19 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Kurt took notes and sighed. Thinking about the Crusades as an enormous mistake instead of something glorious and noble... made more sense, actually. And and said bad things about the Popes who had sanctioned the wars. And THAT was just an unpleasant thought that he didn't want to dwell on.

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[identity profile] bamf-tastic.livejournal.com 2010-02-19 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Kurt shifted uncomfortably and looked around for a partner.

Re: Talk to the TAs

[identity profile] bloody-luck.livejournal.com 2010-02-19 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Mat was there, too, glad that because his author's worldbuilding had gotten quite complex enough, thanks there hadn't really been a divergence in religious views at home.

Well, other than the Whitecloaks, but everyone knew they were mad.
Edited 2010-02-19 18:41 (UTC)

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Marco
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Illyria

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Rose Hathaway

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Andros

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[identity profile] guardianborn.livejournal.com 2010-02-19 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You're not missing much! The streaming online has been terrible these Olympics.

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[identity profile] guardianborn.livejournal.com 2010-02-19 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'm sorry I wasn't here last week," was how a still subdued Rose apologised to her teacher. "You got my message, right?"

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[identity profile] guardianborn.livejournal.com 2010-02-19 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Rose's jaw tightened, a little of the new rage that always seemed to lurk in her showing through. "Yeah, sorry, but this class isn't going to matter shit to me in two months. If it becomes a pattern, too bad, but they come first."

It wasn't a rational reaction, no, but being held captive and watching your friend die didn't usually engender rational responses.

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Lion-o
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[personal profile] bitchy_smurf 2010-02-19 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Illyria was not daydreaming of the beach. More like daydreaming of glory days when she'd had her own worshipers ready and willing to slaughter other people's worshipers.

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[identity profile] guardianborn.livejournal.com 2010-02-19 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
She ground her teeth, trying to listen to that internal voice that sounded like Dimitri that was telling her to calm down and walk away. That the teacher didn't have a clue what she was talking about nor did he care.

"Thank you for telling me," Rose shot back, rage and sarcasm heavy in her voice. "Give me detention or not, I don't care, but maybe next time you remind someone, actually give a damn enough to find out if it was a pleasure trip or something that just might be more important than a lecture."

The hurt and grieving teenager took priority over the self-control she'd been trying to learn, and rationality apparently had second place here.

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[identity profile] guardianborn.livejournal.com 2010-02-20 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
It was true. Teenaged girls were the worst people to get in arguments with. Especially when they were convinced they were hurt.

"Happy to," she snapped, spinning around to leave, her hair flying out behind her. So much rage, so little outlet.
Edited 2010-02-20 00:15 (UTC)

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[identity profile] guardianborn.livejournal.com 2010-02-20 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Awww! I meant in not being able to watch it online, but that SUCKS they didn't show all of it. Some of the earlier guys were a lot of fun. AND YOU MISSED STEPHANE! WOE.

Also <3<3<3 I'm sorry for my ragey girl!

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Kyle Reese